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Analysts raise estimates following Apple Q1 results

updated 01:15 pm EST, Tue January 26, 2010

Firms complain about sudden rules switchover


Several analysts have issued new memos in the wake of Apple's Q1 financial results. Kaufman Bros.' Shaw Wu notes that the results were the "strongest in the company's history," helped mainly by greater-than-expected Mac sales, and a shift towards higher average selling prices for Macs, iPods and iPhones quarter-over-quarter. The 8.7 million in iPhone shipments is described as being "light," but Apple has claimed in a conference call that it could have shipped more if it had not wanted to keep inventory tight.

Like some other analysts Wu complains about Apple's sudden switch to new accounting rules, which while possibly more accurate have confused estimates and predictions. Based on the new formula Wu is raising his FY 2010 forecast to $53 billion in revenue, and $11.15 in EPS. Previous numbers called for $44 billion and $7.40.

UBS analyst Maynard Um is mostly echoing Wu's view, and has altered his FY10 estimates from $52.3 billion in revenue and $11.68 in EPS to $52.1 billion and $11.82. For FY11 Um is now calling for $56.6 billion and $12.88, up from $55.2 billion and $12.03. Looking to the short term the analyst suggests that a March quarter prediction of $11.5 billion and $2.51 is probably too conservative, given Mac sales and an upcoming tablet.

Charlie Wolf of Needham & Co. points out that while Apple is switching away from subscription accounting for products like the iPhone, the company has yet to restate results going back to 2007 under the new rules, as planned. Wolf's non-GAAP EPS estimates for FY10 and FY11 are therefore tentatively set at $12.85 and $15.25, with no comparison available until Apple provides more data. A current $235 price target may be changed in the future as result of Mac and iPhone sales.


by MacNN Staff

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  1. climacs

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    rounding error!

    can't help myself

  1. Bobfozz

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    GAAP rules

    Generally Accepted Accounting Practices.

    Apple owes these analysts nothing, no comparisons, zip. Let them do the math, they seem to love telling us what Apple is going to do.

    Buyers are fickle. Apple can have the greatest sales quarter ever and the stock price invariably goes down that day or the next day because stock buyers are sheep. Then the Apple share price gradually goes up again--like water it seeks its own level no matter what the speculators try to do to maximize their profits. To buy in again later on Apple, they WILL have to pay more.

  1. climacs

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    @bob

    Apple lobbied strongly for this change in the accounting rules, so Wu is certainly entitled to criticize Apple for making his job harder, though Apple (nor anybody else) is required to pay attention to his complaining.

    Still, it's not like these accounting rules were handed down from above; Apple (among others) wanted the change, and they got it.

  1. testudo

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    Re: GAAP Rules

    They don't owe them anything, except, since Apple said they would restate their earnings, one has a right to be irritated that they didn't.

    And the complaints are just on the fact they can't show actual trends in their growth, since the numbers prior to this quarter were all skewed in the other direction.

    Buyers are fickle. Apple can have the greatest sales quarter ever and the stock price invariably goes down that day or the next day because stock buyers are sheep.

    Right, it can't have anything to do with them not meeting the expectations the buyer had on the stock, nor anything to do with Apple talking down the next quarter. It's all just because investors don't know what they're doing or just sheep following....who?

    Oh, and then why is the price is up over $6 a share today?

    Then the Apple share price gradually goes up again--like water it seeks its own level no matter what the speculators try to do to maximize their profits. To buy in again later on Apple, they WILL have to pay more.

    Apparently you missed the whole concept of how the market works. If you can foresee that Apple's stock price will dip following earnings, and then later on go back up again, as you claim, why would you not sell Apple's stock when it hits a high point, wait for it to make that inevitable dip, then buy it again at a lower level. Even at a drop of $5, you can make an extra $5 a share just doing that. You make it sound like these guys are such idiots they just sell it off, wait for it to go up another $20, then buy it back.

    h***, back in the late 90s early 00s, you could easily make a killing on Apple. Buy a month before earnings. Watch as price climbs up heading towards the call. Sell the day of earnings. Buy again a couple of days later after the price has tanked.

    Oh, this worked great around Macworld expos as well.

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