BUH BYE!

Nah nah nah nah ... nah nah nah nah ... hey hey hey, GOOD-BYE!

They musta been...

former Microsoft employees.

As Gump says ...

Stupid is as stupid does .....

Hallelujah

Sometimes it takes a long time for judgment to arrive.
Saying you are "right" Rudy doesn't make it so.

Good for you, bad for Psystar

You are right idanno, do whatever you want with the Mac OS X DVD you've bought. That's why hackintosh community exists - Apple doesn't care. But making a business scheme out of it is a big no-no. That's why Psystar ended up in court.

Comparing software and hardware, you are missing the point. You never purchased ANY software in your life. You purchased licensees to use the software. The owner of the software is the company that sold the DVD to you. Now, if you've truly bought Mac OS X - whole source code tree along with registered trademarks - of course you would have the right to modify it any way you like, etc. Until that happy time please give the choice back to the original owner on how to licence their software.

Oh, btw, and you are having the choice. There are thousands of computer brands out there, find one that fits your needs best. Just don't force your business model on them.

Agree with Viktor

Generally, you don't buy software. Unless you hire someone and pay them to develop it for you and the contract states you own every bit. This is what Apple does actually. Hires people and gives them resources to develop software like Mac OS X. These developers understand they are salaried and Apple owns the product of their work. If you were going to buy Mac OS X you would need a pretty big budget. Assuming Apple wanted to sell, they would ask for a price that compensates for investment. Done. Developing software takes considerable time and effort. Engineers, designers, and developers are not cheap personnel. A common way to amortize expenses and make money in that business is by selling usage rights or licenses. As the producer of the software and sole owner of ALL rights over the software, Apple can decide which rights it wishes to sell and how. They write all of that down on a legal agreement, put a price tag on it and make sure you have to opportunity of understanding what you are getting into before you install the software.

idanno

why sure, you can do with that os x anything you want but you do not own it no matter what you believe. go ahead and take the copy you purchased and put it on any hardware you want.

but you certainly cannot then try to redistribute it while trying to make money.
this isn't rocket science.

Not quite

The DVD you "bought" was not, in fact bought. It is "Licensed" to you under the license agreement. You don't "own" it. You purchased a license to use it under the terms of the license agreement.

Try reading the thing before you make foolish comments.

Here it is in part...

" ...are licensed, not sold, to you by Apple Computer, Inc. ("Apple") for use only under the terms of this License, and Apple reserves all rights not expressly granted to you..."

Source: http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/OSXSWlicense.pdf

Read the whole thing and decide if you think your position would hold up in a court of law.

It's not a bad idea to read any agreement you enter into instead of making it up as you go along.

Actually...

Viktor is slightly wrong on this. When you purchase any software, you are bound to the EULA of said software. In Snow Leopards case it specifically says...

"you are granted a limited non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-branded computer at a time. You agree not to install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-branded computer, or to enable others to do so."

So that means you can NOT do anything you want with it. Its merely a question of if Apple legal will go after you. And it's a safe bet that if you wish to install Leopard on non-Apple Hardware, they wont be coming after you.

But blatantly breaking that by selling a computer with a hacked version of the OS while trying to make a profit on other companys IP.. then youre screwed like Pystar

Apple's money is in the hardware too

Apple excludes the right to install MacOS on your own hardware because Apple makes it's money from both hardware and software as well as protecting their brand. Just because you paid for your boxed copy of MacOS, you have not paid for the whole package.

A boxed copy is effectively an upgrade that allows your existing hardware to run a later version of MacOS than the one you purchased with the hardware. It is for this reason only that Apple retails boxed copies.

In the same way that a discounted boxed MS Windows upgrade license only entitles you to use the software only if you have purchased a previous version, a boxed copy of MacOS gives you the right to use MacOS only if you have already purchased Apple hardware.

For the same reason that MS protects their upgrades with checks for the purchase of a previous version, Apple makes it hard to install MacOS without a purchase of Apple hardware. Isn't this obvious?

any second now...

...fatsudo will praise psystar for its efforts and decry the evil apple empire.

(well maybe not anymore, since i said he would. the life of a contrarian can keep a fella running in circles yo.)

The other Mac clone makers are next!

"Neither Apple nor Psystar has commented on the judgment, which at trial may create a legal precedent that would shut down the handful of other Mac clone makers that have set up shop in Psystar's wake".

The other Mac clone makers are next! The nonsense feeding frenzy trying to make a buck off of Apple's own patented licensed technology is about to end!

HA HA!

F*** you Psystar! LOL

You just got your a** handed to you. FINALLY. Did you REALLY think you stood a chance? That Summary Judgement basically says that your lawyers are idiots and your "company" has absolutely NO legal standing. BTW, those are things a first year law student could have told you over a beer. LOL

thanks Psystar

for providing a case Apple can use to crush any of your spawn.

Re: The other Mac clone makers are next!

The other Mac clone makers are next! The nonsense feeding frenzy trying to make a buck off of Apple's own patented licensed technology is about to end!

What other clone makers? To the best of my knowledge, Psystar is the only one doing anything Apple can sue over. The ExtremeHD people? They neither sell OS X nor install it on the box. Nor do they modify it to work on their computers. They use the EFI-X doo-dad which is actually just a USB hard drive with the hackintosh code on it. But, still, there's nothing illegal or immoral there.

And I guess you expect them to go after Dell for selling netbooks to all those people who install OS X on it, and not doing anything to prevent it.

Surprising

What I find most surprising is HOW LONG it took to get this judgment. The way most of you talked last year (or was it two years ago?), you'd have thought Apple would have ate them up and spit them out after 10 minutes.

licenses

So, if I license the software, that means I can request from Apple a replacement disk for my purchased software from them, whether it be OS X, iLife, iWork, etc. Wonder how easy it is to get that out of them....

oh testudo

you've outdone yourself.

"The way most of you talked last year (or was it two years ago?), you'd have thought Apple would have ate them up and spit them out after 10 minutes."

who would have thought?

you decide that all those who said they didn't have a chance predicted ten minutes (according to you anyway). but the law takes its time. so you decide to nag about how long it took based on your interpretation of the way most of us talked based on your ten minute timeline.

now that's some creative nagging. nagging nonetheless, but creative.

@nat

here's how fatsudo usually "outdoes himself":
20lb Bag o' Cheetos from Costco, using his mom's membership card.