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CNBC: True PC cost includes Photoshop, other apps

updated 10:45 am EDT, Tue April 21, 2009

CNBC on 'Apple tax'

Television network CNBC has joined the debate on Microsoft's controversial Apple tax strategy. The network's Silicon Valley bureau chief, Jim Goldman, observes in a recent segment of On the Money that while a PC may often be cheaper than a Mac, Apple tends to include features with its systems that most PC builders leave off, namely apps in the iLife suite such as iTunes, iMovie and iPhoto. Goldman does however make inaccurate statements about the cost of PCs, and the advantages of a Mac.

In terms of "true cost," says Goldman, PC buyers must pay $50 a year for anti-virus software, at least $129 for maintenance -- assuming dependence on Best Buy's Geek Squad -- and between $80 to $104 on "multimedia" software that makes use of a system. The bureau chief also suggests that PC owners must buy separate music and video editing programs at a cost of $100 each, though, in spite of the inclusion of Windows Media Player, Windows Movie Maker and Windows DVD Maker in Windows Vista. PC users can likewise take advantage of freeware such as Winamp.

Goldman also proposes that PC owners must pay $140 for Photoshop, while Mac owners receive the software for free. No version of Photoshop is bundled with any Apple computer, and a new copy of Photoshop Elements 7 is no more than $100 before tax. Many people do not need Photoshop, and in some circumstances, Elements may indeed be free with a PC purchase.

MacBooks are meanwhile said to have "intangible" superiorities over PC notebooks, such as lower weight and as much as four times the battery life. Goldman likewise suggests that MacBooks have faster processors and higher-resolution screens than their PC equivalents, despite the existence of systems like the Dell XPS M1530, which competes with the base-level MacBook yet has a higher-resolution screen, more RAM and a dedicated graphics processor.

 
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All parties are blowing..

04/21, 11:18am reply

smoke at each other.

Much of the information is inaccurate at best—FROM BOTH SIDES.

Paul Huang

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Like Kleenex

04/21, 11:28am reply

The term "Photoshop" for a good majority of the population has moved beyond being a reference to a specific piece of software to being a generic term for image editing/manipulation.

Coruscant

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I'm a Mac guy...

04/21, 11:36am (1 reply) reply

but this Goldman dude has no clue what he's talking about.

Bobfozz

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This is just embarrasing

04/21, 12:08pm reply

Has it finally come to the point where MS and Apple (or their lackeys) are actively and publicly mud-slinging with each other?

Make me want to go back to a typewriter, a TV and real Hi-Fi stereo system...a la 1970 something.

lamewing

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not even close

04/21, 12:16pm (1 reply) reply

PC buyers must pay $50 a year for anti-virus software,

Really? I guess PC buyers are too stupid to find the free versions of software?

at least $129 for maintenance -- assuming dependence on Best Buy's Geek Squad

OK, he really does think the PC buyers are stupid if they're going to the Geek Squad.

The bureau chief also suggests that PC owners must buy separate music and video editing programs at a cost of $100 each...


Actually, even forgetting the 'included' offerings, one only "must" buy such programs if one actually needs such programs. Most people have no need for a GarageBand type app, so they don't have to spend $100 on something similar in Windows.

Goldman also proposes that PC owners must pay $140 for Photoshop, while Mac owners receive the software for free.

I guess he thinks iPhoto is a Photoshop replacement?

MacBooks are meanwhile said to have "intangible" superiorities over PC notebooks, such as lower weight and as much as four times the battery life.

Um, doesn't the fact that you can define what they are make them tangible?

testudo

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zOMG

04/21, 12:28pm reply

These guys forgot to mention that GIMP is free for the Mac.

Hey, at least no once called it a MAC, Amirite?

milhouse

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zOMG

04/21, 12:29pm reply

These guys forgot to mention that GIMP is free for the Mac.

Hey, at least no once called it a MAC, Amirite?

milhouse

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Dell Comparison

04/21, 12:59pm reply

Yes the Dell XPS M1530 has more RAM, but its slower DDR2 running at 667 Mhz. The macbook also has a faster system bus. I wish these comparisons would be complete rather than looking at this number or that number to say one is better than the other.

odowd80

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$140???

04/21, 01:19pm reply

Hmmm. Photoshop Elements is about $90; Photoshop is about $700. So what the h*** is he talking about???

sribe

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Resolution

04/21, 01:41pm reply

[i]despite the existence of systems like the Dell XPS M1530, which competes with the base-level MacBook yet has a higher-resolution screen[/i]

At a certain point, higher resolution becomes self-defeating. Until the mainstream OSes support true resolution independence, a higher resolution screen just means tinier graphical elements, resulting in extra eye strain.

TheBum

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