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Apple Genius hiring documents leaked

updated 06:00 pm EDT, Fri September 26, 2008

Apple Genius hiring docs

Details of Apple's hiring process and documents for Genius positions show tight control over employees, according to a leak on MacBlogz. Aviv Hadar applied for a Genius job online and was subsequently invited to the local store for an interview. After a half hour past the scheduled time, Hadar said the two managers "waltz in like they were Apple execs or something."

After talking down the possible conflict of interest because of his affiliation with MacBlogz, the managers explained that they were "very strict" with what employees do in their free time.

Although the managers initially boasted about the greatness of the job and how the employees loved the team environment, they allegedly paused when asked "how do you like your jobs, how do you like working for Apple?" One manager replied "..some days I want to pull my hair out and other days I am so happy I helped a customer. It's a huge commitment and you can't call your own hours."

After the interview, a formal offer for $17 per hour was sent. The terms required the applicant to read and agree to comply with Apple's Business Conduct policy. Signing an Intellectual Property Agreement was also part of the deal.

Hadar did not take the job.

[Image courtesy of Aviv Hadar at MacBlogz]

by MacNN Staff




  1. pcarrington

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Business is Business

    That's why it's called a "J...O...B"
    The stockholders demand and deserve protection from unscrupulous employees and the employee gets to know in advance what to expect and how to freakin' behave.

  1. ophiochos

    Joined: Dec 1969



    in most UK universities they say that you should not 'bring the University into disrepute'. What makes Apple so bad? I don't see anything particularly unusual in this letter. It said they played down the conflict of the blog. What do you expect? They don't want people blogging about how awful it is working for Apple, maybe. I don't really feel like waving a placard about this for too long...

  1. darkrail

    Joined: Dec 1969



    What's the story here?

    He applied for a job, and they offered him a job. And...?


  1. 64stang06

    Joined: Dec 1969


    re: Huh?

    I think the point here is that those documents weren't posted online before. Apple has a very strict policy regarding their hiring practices and pay scales, which are highlighted in the posted letter. Since the author declined to be hired, I don't think it's a problem to post that information (then again, it does deal with Apple so who knows).

  1. VS Dude

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Gee - the "secret" is out

    The only real "news" here is the rather pitiful salary a so-called "genius" earns.

  1. howiethemacguy

    Joined: Dec 1969


    He made a good choice.

    I'm glad this guy didn't take the job. It's clear that this was all some kind of stunt to push traffic to his blog. Apple doesn't need people that will be so disloyal to the company as to post their offer letter online. When I worked for Apple, I abided by the rule of not being involved in any blogs. Since I've been gone from Apple for a year now, I can do what ever I want. However, I won't disparage them. I know that if I have a problem, they will find a way to fix the problem.

  1. BelugaShark

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Aviv Hadar

    What a whining loser!

  1. Parky

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Not in the UK

    Terrible employment terms, we have much better ones in the UK. You cannot be terminated for 'no reason' in the UK. We have very strict laws about termination. After 2 years employment you can be made redundant, but the job has to have gone, i.e. they can't replace you with someone else. Plus you would have to be paid redundancy pay. To sack someone in the UK you need good reason and must have gone through a disciplinary process. Needless to say it is complicated BUT designed to protect the employee. In the UK Apple would not be allowed to use those employment terms,

  1. Guest

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Better than the Military

    If you think that is bad, you have never read an enlistment contract for the US Army. I can't talk about what I do, I suspect there are many other companies that are the same. I suspect that while they would say no blogging it would be in reference to Mac, not your personal life.
    While yes they say terminate employment at any time no reason, if you can prove discrimination in a court of law or any other illegal reason for termination, you will win. I suspect it is there to be able to fire the tech that go crazy in the store and tells how bad he hates it there to a store full of customers.

  1. Guest

    Joined: Dec 1969


    at-will employment

    the fire at any time, is not an agreement with apple, thats not "their" policy. That is state law in most states. Most states say an employer may terminate employment at any time for any reason. All apple is doing is restating what law says. In fact if I am correct the only state that is not at-will is Montana (and it is the most pitiful of them all, I grew up there and seriously almost no business provides even the slightest bit of customer service, you can't even get mcdonald's without feeling like you've been insulted - and the food is orders of magnitude worse than everywhere else. I think it has to do with the fact you can't fire anyone).

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