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MacBook Pro to drop full DVI, FireWire 400?

updated 12:25 pm EDT, Thu September 25, 2008

MacBook Pro Port Changes

Apple's anticipated MacBook Pro revision might sacrifice some of its now-traditional ports in the name of space, says a relatively new but allegedly accurate source for AppleInsider. Although Apple has included a full-sized DVI port on every 15-inch or larger notebook since a mid-cycle update to the titanium PowerBook G4, the new model is now claimed to drop this in favor of a smaller port to maximize the use of space in the system. Apple's proprietary Mini DVI adapter is described as most likely, though the company recently introduced a smaller-still alternative known as Micro DVI for the MacBook Air.

A native FireWire 400 port is also said to have been cut from at least one of the professional notebooks, with FireWire 800 left as the only option. FireWire 800 is now more common among high-end external drives and is technically compatible with 400 but requires an adapter to work with devices using the older standard.

The rumor if true would also support an apparent case leak from last month which suggests the 13-inch MacBook will be cosmetically similar if not identical to the MacBook Pro, which is still believed to be shipping in 15- and 17-inch variants. Both lines would ship in aluminum shells and have tapered designs that recall the MacBook Air in a less extreme form. The Pro has also been reported as gaining easier access to the hard drive and memory than on the current model.

Little else is known about the notebooks, though most expect Centrino 2-era Intel processors. More recent rumors have pointed to a launch at or before mid-October.

by MacNN Staff



  1. testudo

    Joined: Dec 1969


    and to think...

    just yesterday people were mocking a Dell computer because it had a VGA port.

  1. bogmonster

    Joined: Dec 1969


    micro-DVI ok...

    So long as there's no loss and the book ships with an adaptor.

    Any feedback from those using it on the MbA?

    I'll miss the FW400 legacy support though. Lots of old kit in this office.

  1. palane

    Joined: Dec 1969



    I've used mini-DVI on a 12"PB for quite some time now without many problems. The main one was to remember to bring the cable along for presentations. I wound up with several Mini DVI to VGA connectors as a consequence of forgetting

    The worst case was when I patted myself on the back for remembering the adapter. As I'm getting my computer out for my seminar, I discover that I'd grabbed the wrong (mini-DVI to DVI) adapter.


  1. Guest

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Thats Funny...

    ...I was just thinking, I wish there was more propriatary plugs and cables that I would be forced to buy.

    Enoughs enough. Get a life apple.

  1. gperks

    Joined: Dec 1969


    FW400 dropped

    Not a problem. FW800/400 converter cables are easy to find.

    I would hope any change to video adapter would still allow a 30" display to be driven. That's one advantage the MBPs have over the other notebooks.

  1. eldarkus

    Joined: Dec 1969



    Re: Testudo - we were making fun of the fact that Dell had a out of date VGA port. A mini DVI port is still a DVI port. Besides, Dell used the smaller VGA port so they had room for the PS/2 ports :P

    Re: Guest - And would u be forced to buy it if it came with the computer like the 12" powerbook did? No... now get a life guest :)

  1. danviento

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Part of the shift.

    First of all, full DVI support would be very important to people who need a quality external screen for color accuracy. We're talking graphic designers, video editors, photographers, what have you. I very much doubt apple would isolate these large groups from its new hardware base.

    As for the dropping of FW400, I'd hope that they'd include an adapter for the many people using 400 for their peripherals. Perhaps dropping FW400 will push the prevalence of FW800 (think larger support in and demand for large external drives) and leave room for the rumored FW3200 in future models.

    That's just my take.

  1. phillymjs

    Joined: Dec 1969


    It's about time...

    ...that the MacBook Pro got a quickly and easily replaceable hard drive.

    Losing the FW400 port is no biggie, if I can only have one I'd rather have 800. I've been carrying an 800-to-400 cable for a couple years as part of my standard toolkit, anyway.

    I couldn't care less about the mini display port, but don't hold your breath on the full-size adapter being included as standard. It will be a BTO option to keep costs down, like the Apple remote is now.

  1. Demonike

    Joined: Dec 1969



    HDMI would be nice addition to notebooks, since they're often used for presentations and hooked up with projectors and HD-enabled widescreens. Being able to transmit the sound as well with one cable would be very effective even in home theatre solutions (although apple is pushing its TV for that segment).

  1. testudo

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Re: comments

    Re: Testudo - we were making fun of the fact that Dell had a out of date VGA port. A mini DVI port is still a DVI port. Besides, Dell used the smaller VGA port so they had room for the PS/2 ports :P

    Yeah, except Dell hasn't put PS/2 ports on their laptops in years. Maybe you were confused by the eSATA port or the larger 54mm ExpressCard slot.

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