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Apple to make 45m iPhone 3Gs in one year

updated 07:55 am EDT, Fri August 22, 2008

Apple 45m iPhone 3G Target


Apple is aggressive enough in its iPhone business that it's targeting production of between 40 million to 45 million iPhone 3G units over the course of the next year, say sources for BusinessWeek that are allegedly conscious of Apple's plans. The August 2009 target is a 50 percent boost over a 30 million-unit, one year goal Apple had set in July and is characterized as at least 52 percent higher than even the most optimistic analyst estimates, which in Piper Jaffray researcher Gene Munster's view would have Apple shipping 26 million devices.

The internal goal was allegedly boosted shortly after launch, when it became apparent that sales were much stronger than expected, according to the purported insiders. Apple publicly claims to have sold one million iPhone 3G examples on the handset's launch weekend, but is unofficially believed by the same sources to be producing about 150,000 iPhones per day, or potentially more than the 800,000 iPhones per week reported earlier. A consistent rate of production would result in about 39 million iPhones shipped in the course of a 12-month period.

Meeting its higher goals will in part require improved turnaround times at stores that are being realized by Apple, the magazine adds. Needham Research analyst Charlie Wolf claims to be aware of process improvements that will cut the time it takes to fully register and activate customers down from 30 minutes at the extreme end to just 15, potentially reducing the queues that have persisted since the iPhone 3G first went on sale.

Other analysts have also said Apple's shipping numbers would increase should the company introduce a lower-cost iPhone, which Munster in particular believes would be introduced in early 2009.


by MacNN Staff

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  1. slider

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    Joined: Oct 1999

    +2

    Profit on...

    40 Million iPhones, conservatively assume $100 net profit per handset, 4 Billion dollars in profit. Well, Apple better call Mike Dell and tell him they're gonna throw in the towel. And also call the folks over at Palm to let them know they were right, Apple just doesn't have the experience to make a smart home much less compete in the market.

    To be fair though, it's in past doom-sayers interest to cast dispersions on competitors, though history has repeatedly demonstrated betting against Apple is probably not the smartest thing. With Dell's comment it could have gone either way with Apple. With Palm though, seriously how long were they sleeping for, they said more or less the same thing people said about the iPod when it was first introduced.

  1. rtbarry

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    Joined: Aug 2001

    +3

    slider said it all

    that is all

  1. testudo

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    technically

    Apple isn't making any iPhones. They farm all that out.

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  1. testudo

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    Re: profit on

    bear in mind all profit is subscribed, so it only accounts for like 500 million per quarter. Chicken feed.

  1. dpicardi

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    Keep in mind...

    The apps store is currently bringing in $1M a day. That will easily quintuple over the next year. Apple's stock should be going through the roof!

    However, I think $100 profit on a $199-$299 iPhone is too high. Unless you are factoring in that Apple is getting some part of the subscription fee.

  1. Guest

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    Joined: Nov 1999

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    Re: profit on

    "bear in mind all profit is subscribed, so it only accounts for like 500 million per quarter. Chicken feed."

    Don't forget that Apple is also recognizing income for iPhones sales from the previous quarter as well as the previous seven quarters. Not exactly chicken feed once this is full-tilt.

  1. Guest

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    RE: Keep in mind

    "However, I think $100 profit on a $199-$299 iPhone is too high. Unless you are factoring in that Apple is getting some part of the subscription fee."

    The hardware costs of the 8Gb iPhone 3G were estimated to be $174 (as I recall). Figure Apple's total costs at something like $200-225. The carriers typically pay the manufacturer about $200 more than the subsidized price of a phone, but Apple is rumored to be receiving as much as $325 over the subsidized ATT price. If anything, I suspect Apple is making much more than $100/unit.

  1. testudo

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    Re: keep in mind

    But Steve said the 30% intake on the appstore was just for upkeep and maintenance. They weren't going to use it as a revenue stream....

  1. slider

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    Joined: Oct 1999

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    I must be out of date

    My understanding was that while Apple did get a percentage of the subscription cost during sale of the 1st gen iPhone, I thought that ATT and Apple renegotiated the 3G iPhone terms to where ATT would pay Apple whatever subsidy they are paying thereby bringing the cost of the phone down to it's current $200ish price tag, but ATT would not longer give Apple a portion of its monthly service fees. So, again, my initial understanding was that Apple is still pulling in around $400 per unit, ~half paid for by ATT and the other by the subscriber. I thought that was why you had to actually go into an Apple or ATT store to purchase it, ie they get your billing info right off the bat. Apple usually has high margins, and based on what I understood the new arrangement to be, I thought $100 profit per unit was conservative. Nevertheless, if net profits are $75, $50, or $25, that'd be 3B, 2B, or 1B respectively, for iPhone sales alone.

  1. Guest

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    Re: I must be out of date

    You are correct that Apple no longer receives a percentage from ATT's iPhone subcriber plans. The new arrangement has ATT paying the "full cot" of the phone rather than a discounted price for the phone plus the revenue-share.

    It is impossible for mere mortals to know but the rumors were that Apple received $11/mo ($264 over the life of the contract) for each first-generation iPhone registered on ATT's network. The current speculation has ATT paying Apple somewhere between $450 and $525 for an 8Gb iPhone 3G.

    iSuppli has estimated the hardware bill of materials and manufacturing cost to be $173 (http://www.edn.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA6573269). This does not include transportation costs or any cost related to marketing of other non-COGS expenses assignable to the iPhone

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