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MobileMe still missing me.com logins, push

updated 01:05 pm EDT, Mon July 14, 2008

MobileMe push, logins

Several days after its launch, MobileMe still remains only partially functional, Apple admits. On the service's status page, Apple notes that the me.com login page remains non-functional, along with groups. A MobileMe update for Mac OS X, spotted through Software Update early during the launch process, has also been withdrawn.

Within its support pages, Apple has further explained that MobileMe does not use "true" push technology, but rather a timed operation. Instead of sending contacts, calendars and e-mail data out to the cloud whenever a change is made, the "Automatically" setting in MobileMe Push only syncs in 15-minute intervals. A message read on an iPhone, for instance, will not register on a Mac until a quarter of an hour later.

People are additionally complaining that it is impossible to setup a non-Me reply address for MobileMe e-mail while still retaining push capabilities. The only solution at present appears to be maintaining separate IMAP and POP accounts, with the former for non-push mail sync, and the other for contacts, calendars and bookmarks.

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Guest
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07/14, 01:45pm | report spam | (1 reply) close Reply |
login is working for me

the login is working for me as of 8:30 PDT

MyRightEye
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07/14, 01:46pm | report spam | close Reply |
you're kidding

The whole thing was that it was push email. Now it's only every 15 min. Which is exactly what we have already. You lying b*******.

testudo
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07/14, 01:49pm | report spam | close Reply |
not push?

Come on Apple, if it isn't 'push', don't call it push. You market it as "Add a contact, see it over there immediately" and now say "well, you'll see it in 15 minutes". What's up with that?

All it sounds like now is that they do just run a .Mac sync every 15 minutes.

scotte75ky
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07/14, 01:50pm | report spam | close Reply |
ah oh

Sounds like Apple mis-represented this whole "me" thing.

testudo
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07/14, 01:51pm | report spam | close Reply |
email...

I also don't get the whole 'email' thing though. Isn't what MobileMe claims the same as what you'd get with IMAP anyway?

I get the others (which is basically IMAP for contacts and calendars, I guess), but mail just sounds so "yeah, and...".

patniemeyer
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07/14, 02:07pm | report spam | (1 reply) close Reply |
Article has it wrong..

Changes made on the iPhone or via the me.com web site are indeed pushed to one other, it's only the desktop that is synced in intervals.

I don't know why they have done this... I'm just assuming it's a technical limitation that will be fixed in the future.

Also, don't forget that you can hit the sync icon in the menu to cause a sync immediately.

- Pat

scottshu@scottshu.com
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07/14, 02:07pm | report spam | (1 reply) close Reply |
Actionable?

Time to call the lawyers...

According to Apple's site: "On your iPhone and the web, sync happens continuously."

From Apple's dictionary application: "continuous |k?n?tinyo??s|
adjective
1 forming an unbroken whole; without interruption : the whole performance is enacted in one continuous movement. USAGE In precise usage, continual means 'frequent, repeating at intervals' and continuous means 'going on without pause or interruption':

It looks like the 15 minute line is now on the MobileMe pages. Anyone know if that was up there the whole time?

doolz
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07/14, 02:14pm | report spam | close Reply |
Home page is not log-in..

Get your facts correct. Homepage is part of the original iTools service and .mac service. It's not a log-in page for MobileMe but was your web site prior to iWeb.....

I'm finding the best way to update things is just to use the web apps so that things are pushed to your iPhone straight away. Keeps everything in one place as well rather than having multiple applications open.

mr100percent
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07/14, 02:14pm | report spam | close Reply |
the Phone pushes

The iPhone and iPod DO push. Email yourself and see. The article is referring to the Desktops being a little slower to receive those updates.

MacHoola
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07/14, 02:17pm | report spam | close Reply |
Less feature than .Mac

The MobileMe mail has less feature than .Mac mail... All the contact integration is gone : no more auto-completion, no more "add sender", no more picture from folks in your address book appearing!!

That's terrible

Guest
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07/14, 02:19pm | report spam | close Reply |
Still can't access email

Whenever I log in, there is a Quicktime pop-up with a virtual Mobileme tour that will not load completely, nor will it go away, as there is no 'close' button. So annoying!

windsurfer_nyc
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07/14, 02:39pm | report spam | close Reply |
sloppy MacNN reporting

"A MobileMe update for Mac OS X, spotted through Software Update early during the launch process, has also been withdrawn."

The Mobileme updated popped up fine on my office G5 as of Monday July 14th, 2:30PM EST. Just open System Preferences and click on .Mac and wait a few seconds. If an update window doesn't pop-up, try signing out under Account.

"Within its support pages, Apple has further explained that MobileMe does not use "true" push technology, but rather a timed operation."

This sentence, taken by itself, leaves out that the timed pushing is only from the computer, and does not include iPhone and web.

wings_rfs
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07/14, 02:55pm | report spam | close Reply |
My results with push

Add an event to calender on iPhone:

Appears on MobileMe in less than 30 seconds, but I had to refresh the page to see it. For me that's not an issue.

Appears on my Mac in 40 seconds. I'd call that sluggish but still pushy.

Add an event to MobileMe:

Appears on iPhone within a few seconds. Very pushy.

Appears on my Mac in about 15 seconds. Somewhat pushy.

Add an event to my Mac's iCal:

Appears on MobileMe in up to 15 minutes later, then on my phone a few seconds after that. Not pushy.

FWIW, I read somewhere that an Apple person said they intentionally set "Automatic" to be synced every 15 mins for the initial rollout in order to lighten the load on the servers, and will soon make it truly automatic. We'll see.

Until then, if a person NEEDS the Mac to sync with an iPhone immediately after changing something on the Mac, they CAN hit the sync menu and choose "Sync Now". I can live with that and when they make it truly automatic then it'll save me a trip to the menu. Can hardly wait.

dynsight
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07/14, 03:06pm | report spam | close Reply |
Calendar works :)

Created an event for tonight on the iPhone and within a few seconds it showed up on the mobile me web site.

HOWEVER, I do not like the fact that I am getting less service than I had before (where are member downloads, greeting cards) and the mail is less feature rich as well.

It is slooooow, been waiting close to 10 minutes for my contact list to load!

simdude
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07/14, 03:20pm | report spam | (1 reply) close Reply |
Contact list problems

I've also had problems with my contact list. Sometimes it loads immediately, sometimes it times out. And none of my contacts autofill when creating an email. This worked great in .Mac. Is anyone else having this problem?

rtbarry
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07/14, 03:45pm | report spam | close Reply |
settle down retards...

1) bad reporting that misleads lemmings

2) the thing just launched, to millions of people - of course there will be hiccups

3) ZOMG, the person's face isn't in the email! (yet)

relax.

jasonh1234
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07/14, 04:04pm | report spam | close Reply |
WTF?

That is total false advertising. I just got back from the Apple store and have the box sitting in front of me now which I was about to open. Now I think I'll bring it back.
Oh wait... here's a solution.
http://www.macuser.com/internet/crankdownmobilemes15minute.php?lsrc=murss

RKnight
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07/14, 05:10pm | report spam | close Reply |
Reply as another email

I was really disappointed when I found out I couldn't send as a non-Me.com email account. With my business I really need to reply from my domain-based email and was hoping to enjoy the "push" (sort of) capabilities of MobileMe.... maybe if enough people complain, they'll change it.

Guest
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07/14, 05:18pm | report spam | close Reply |
MobileMe Aliases

If you use an alias account with MobileMe, you will not get push functionality at all. You have to set the alias up as a "fetch" IMAP account. Totally sucks. You should be able to send from your alias address just as you can from Mail.app.

longzero
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07/14, 07:22pm | report spam | close Reply |
Disappointing

I sign up for the 60 days trial and I have 57 days left. What kind of service did I receive during the first 3 days of my trial? No service! Very disappointing!

fletcher
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07/14, 10:56pm | report spam | close Reply |
Push Email Works For Me

I just forward messages to my .mac account and they show up on my iPhone instantly. I don't see how the address you use to respond with has anything to do with the email you receive.

I have noticed a slight delay after adding events to iCal, but I think the only situation where this might bite me would be if I added an event and then immediately closed my laptop. On a normal desktop the delay shouldn't be a big deal.

What I've seen so far works pretty well. I'll withhold judgement on whether the implementation details cause any problems until I'm able to play around with it for a few days.

treestman
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07/15, 04:05am | report spam | close Reply |
Phone, Web yes, Macs no.

This article is a bit misleading. The iPhone and Web apps DO push.

You can easily see this for yourself by displaying, say, a calendar on the iPhone, Web, and iCal. Add a meeting via the iPhone or Web and you'll see it in the other two places within 10-20 seconds. Contacts work the same way.

The Mac however, uses the same Sync settings in MobileMe that .Mac did (I was surprised after the MobileMe upgrade to see that there was no "Push" setting). So if you make a change via a Mac app you'll wait up to 15 minutes for it to appear in the other two places.

It's odd they implemented push in the two new places (iPhone 2.0 and the Web apps) but not the Mac itself.

Journeyman
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07/15, 02:04pm | report spam | close Reply |
Jobs is 'misleading'

treestman,

Anyone who watched Steve Jobs keynote address knows that we were very mislead. He demoed the Push features, and they went almost immediately from one device to the next. For that to have been changed to 15 minutes from the desktop is within a hair's breath of an out and out lie, and not what I expect from a company like Apple, which is usually renown for their integrity. They've now lost some respect, and are starting to sink to Microsoft-like levels of blatant stupidity. C'mon Steve' GET IT TOGETHER.

treestman
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07/15, 03:31pm | report spam | close Reply |
Apple's Demo

journeyman,

Apple's demo works now just as it did then. An update on the phone or web app is pushed immediately.

That's what they demoed, and that's how it works.

The mac syncs a lot more than just contacts and calendars, so one could argue that's why it wasn't, and still isn't continuous. You can always select the menu items to Sync Now.

Having said that, I think the Mac should get a modification for contacts and calendars to Push. Understand that this should NOT simply be a continuous sync in MobileMe. I do NOT want my Mac constantly syncing other items like preferences, widgets, etc.

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MobileMe still missing me.com logins, push

updated 01:05 pm EDT, Mon July 14, 2008

MobileMe push, logins

login is working for me

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ah oh

email...

Article has it wrong..

Actionable?

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the Phone pushes

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settle down retards...

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Phone, Web yes, Macs no.

Jobs is 'misleading'

Apple's Demo

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