Psystar tries to explain Mac clone fiasco
updated 03:05 pm EDT, Thu April 17, 2008
Psystar explanation
After stoking massive controversy by announcing an alleged $400 Mac clone, vowing the fight Apple's Mac OS X EULA in Court then rapidly switching its address, leading some to question the authenticity of its claims, Psystar is attempting to clear up some of the confusion. Unfortunately, the company's explanation may raise more questions than it answers. Psystar initially claimed that it would soon deliver a $400 Mac clone, based around a 2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with integrated Intel GMA 950 graphics. Stating that the machine will be compatible with Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5), the company says it will pre-install the OS and include a special restoration disc, alongside the genuine installation disc. The legality of Psystar's operation is dubious, as Apple's Mac OS X license explicitly states that the software can only be installed and used on an Apple-labeled computer, specifically stating "You agree not to install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-labeled computer, or to enable others to do so."
After changing its stated physical address a number of times and suddenly refusing to take orders, the company posted a message on its Web site stating "We're in the process of moving to a new location which is now listed on our contact page. The first new address posted (10481) was in error and our correct address is 10475 NW 28th Street. PSYSTAR was, prior to this past week, not ready to handle the enormous production capacity demanded by the online community. Due to the incredible response we have now expanded to a larger commercial unit to handle the supplies and assembly of Open Computers. THANK YOU for all of your orders."
The company also said its refusal to take orders was due to the fact that its merchant gateway, Powerpay, "dropped the ball" and refused to process any more transactions from our company. Psystar says reverted to Paypal in the wake of Powerpay's decision.
Powerpay tells a different story. According to a News.com report, Louisa Deluca, vice president of loss prevention for Powerpay, said on Thursday that her company dropped Psystar because it violated the terms of its agreement with Powerpay. "She declined to cite specific violations, but said 'there are plenty of reasons why we shut the account off. We did not know that's what he was selling, we learned that yesterday.'"
The company currently claims a 10 to 12 day "build time for all products."













questionable...
04/17, 03:27pm reply
you can find anything and everything for sale on the internet, and unfortunately often times the wrong people also know this.
That being so, I've always made it a policy to never buy from a company without an established history of doing business (such as apple, amazon, etc) If they are indeed serious about being able to offer such a product they are off to a poor start reputation wise. I think the ONLY way I would buy one of their machines based on the information I have on them would be if I actually physically saw it in front of me. I doubt very much I'd take a chance on ordering one only to HOPE it showd up 10-12 days later.
arrannen
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Keep your money
04/17, 03:28pm reply
I doubt you will ever see a product come from this outfit.
Even if they delivered on their promises, Apple would shut them down before they shipped a single unit (with the Mac OS pre-installed).
Plus the fact that for very little more you can get a Mac Mini that is legal, has iLife, includes a warranty from a reputable firm and has better better specs.
ClevelandAdv
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clones
04/17, 04:04pm reply
and I've always found apple hardware to be far superior to anything out there and there's a good reason why the "clones" dont do well. They will always ALWAYS be inferior to the real thing.
I think apple is doing the right thing in keeping tight control of their hardware and shutting down the cloners. Thats why their hardware IS superior.
arrannen
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clown
04/17, 04:13pm reply
Their clone, once you configure it, doesn't seem to be more cost effective than what Apple is offering,except that it is not an Apple. Why would some one buy a POS when they can have similar performance for a similar price from Apple.
macbones
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more than sum of parts
04/17, 05:07pm reply
As evidenced by the recent article in Popular Mechanics, which backs up previous reviews that Macs run Vista better than PCs, a computer is more than the sum of it's parts. PC's are often spec'd to look better than a Mac, but those reviews suggested otherwise. Psystar's spec sheet may look like it's just like a Mac using all the same parts (CPU, GPU, memory, etc), but there is just something about how Apple puts it all together that makes for a better computer.
ender
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updates
04/17, 05:08pm reply
not to mention the computer would need a reinstall everytime you accidentlally updated the sysytem....doesn't sound like a happy computer existence.
rytc
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Clones don't help
04/17, 06:14pm reply
The reason Apple killed off clones in the first place is that they did nothing to increase the market share of the Mac platform. People that were going to get a mac were going to get a mac. The clones only gave them a cheaper alternative, costing Apple sales.
bjojade
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Ha Ha!
04/17, 08:06pm reply
This is a scam being run by some punk kids. All this flopping around is a sure sign that they're in over their heads. This will end with a visit from the feds, mark my words.
In the meantime, it will relieve a few incredibly stupid people of several hundred dollars at a whack. I can only imagine that PC users and the newly-born are stupid enough to fall for this, but at least it's a testament to how bad the cheapskate mac wannabes want one ...
chas_m
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CherryOS
04/17, 08:32pm reply
ranks right up there with CherryOS & L Computers in the list of things that are most likely complete scams.
010111
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chuckle
04/17, 08:58pm reply
I only hope testudo sent them money - in his usual mindlessness he was touting them several days ago. Once again, he is proved a wanker.
Doofuses.
robttwo
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