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Apple launches 16GB iPhone, 32GB iPod touch

updated 08:40 am EST, Tue February 5, 2008

16GB iPhone and 32GB touch

Apple today doubled the capacity of its touchscreen media devices, releasing both a 16GB iPhone as well as a 32GB variant of the iPod touch. The new capacities allow fewer sacrifices for owners who want to carry as much media as possible. "For some users, there's never enough memory," Apple Worldwide iPod and iPhone Product Marketing VP Greg Joswiak says. On the iPod touch, the new storage level allows as many as 7,000 songs or 40 hours of nonstop video; the iPhone now holds half as much in exchange for its cellular functions, which remain unchanged from the original 8GB model.

Both capacities act as supersets of the existing capacities, which remain available; both the 16GB iPhone and the 32GB iPod touch sell for $499 and are ready to order immediately from the online Apple Store.

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adrianm
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02/05, 08:57am | report spam | close Reply |
make it 64gb...

and it'll take my itunes collection.

until then, i still need to pick and choose.

Monstermind
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02/05, 09:06am | report spam | close Reply |
Ipod Screen

But the screen's the same lesser-quality-than-the-iphone one they had before, right?

miawj
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02/05, 09:12am | report spam | close Reply |
still no firewire

Pointless upgrade unless you have a stupidly small collection. What is needed is firewire instead of USB to make juggling content less stressful.

ViktorCode
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02/05, 09:22am | report spam | close Reply |
What's hidden?

I wonder if the memory upgrades are the only modifications from the original model? Could new iPhone and iPod Touch use upgraded chipset as well? Better screen for iPod Touch?

dynsight
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02/05, 09:29am | report spam | close Reply |
Like Switching

I have an iphone, and I don't mind swapping music. My total collection is about 130 GB, so until recently, it never fit on an iPod anyway.

I also use one of Doug's scripts to create a random play list. 1100 songs and a movie is fine. Switching songs upon synch is fine.

I am curious if I can swap my iPhone without any "penalty," from AT&T. I am sure they will want something for the privilege of using their network.

coldfusion1970
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02/05, 09:37am | report spam | close Reply |
re: still no firewire

Forget FW. Apple is never going to make another iPod with it. Most Windows users have USB2 and it makes sense for them to have that as the standard.

Look at the MacBook Air, no FW on that either. If you have a Mac that was originally shipped with Mac OS 10.4 (or later), then it will have USB2 on it.

Roger@MacNN
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02/05, 09:40am | report spam | close Reply |
FireWire

"Still" no FireWire? Apple removed FireWire from iPods ages ago, in no small part because it alienated PC users. You might not have an iPod to complain about if Apple hadn't compromised for the mainstream market.

jcatma61
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02/05, 09:46am | report spam | close Reply |
Stop Whining

My iPhone is my business mobile device. 600 heavy contacts, 350 songs that I'm happy to swap out from time to time, 8 various daily/weekly podcasts, 15-20 video podcasts at any given time, and only about 1/4 full.

And it's electric, not coal- or diesel-powered like the MS Green TurdBrick.

Guest
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02/05, 10:01am | report spam | close Reply |
Got one of these

Just been in the Apple Store in Regent Street London and purchased - they weren't even out on the shelves, but I was asking about the Iphone in general, and the lass very conspiratorially told me she had a box of them right there.

svencito
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02/05, 10:01am | report spam | close Reply |
pointless

The rest of the world is waiting for 3G, not higher storage capacity.

We can be without GPS but EDGE is stone age for many civilized countries.

I can only imagine that the Apple engineers can't make the 3G phones run as long as one would like.

howiethemacguy
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02/05, 10:08am | report spam | close Reply |
b**** b**** b****

Apple just can't do anything right. "No FireWire", "The screen isn't as good as the iPod Touch".... I don't give a rat's a** about FireWire unless I'm using it to boot a PPC Mac or transfer data from a video camera. USB 2 has worked great for me for general storage and data transfer and, my iPhone's screen is awesome despite being lower pixel density as the Touch.

climacs
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02/05, 10:30am | report spam | close Reply |
firewire

I prefer firewire but some folks need to face the fact that it's strictly a niche interface at this point; it's used for transferring video data or for booting your Mac. For general consumer use, USB2 is far, far more ubiquitous and about as fast as Firewire. What's the big deal?

That being said, I'm glad I kept my AC power supply from my now-dead 4th gen iPod. It uses a Firewire cable to attach the iPod to the AC unit. Very useful!

climacs
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02/05, 10:31am | report spam | close Reply |
firewire again

(I also wish iTunes would allow me to use the Firewire cable, if I wish, to attach my iPod to the computer. As things are now, it only sees it as an external drive and doesn't allow me to do any iTunes-iPod functions when connected with the FW cable)

David Esrati
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02/05, 10:41am | report spam | close Reply |
Firewire? SEARCH!!!!

Who cares about Firewire? Now you have 16gb of data - and still no search. Why do I have to jailbreak the phone to get search?

JeffHarris
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02/05, 10:51am | report spam | close Reply |
3G? FireWire?

FireWire is the superior interface for storage devices. USB2 is good for mice and keyboards. Too bad Apple dropped it to "play nice" with the Pee Sea drones of the world.

As for 3G, there are 2 things I've read about on the horizon... 1.) there are smaller, lower power 3G chipsets in the pipeline somewhere. 2.) there are compact low power 4G chipsets soon to be released.

My feeling, as a long time Mac user/Apple follower, is that Apple will wait a bit long, skip 3G altogether and break NEW ground (Apple NEVER does THAT) by shipping iPhone 2.0 with 4G and 32GB.

You never know...

testudo
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02/05, 10:53am | report spam | close Reply |
Re: firewire

"Still" no FireWire? Apple removed FireWire from iPods ages ago, in no small part because it alienated PC users. You might not have an iPod to complain about if Apple hadn't compromised for the mainstream market.

No, Apple removed Firewire because it wanted to save the extra 50 cents it cost to put it in there. My 5G iPod has firewire and USB.

testudo
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02/05, 11:03am | report spam | close Reply |
price

Well, I noticed that the 8 GB, 16 GB and 32GB models are all $100 apart. Interesting how spending an extra $100 only gets you an extra 8GB, but another $100 gets you 16 GB more. Methinks Apple is getting screwed on component pricing.

Terrin
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Hard drive

The inability to store files on the iPod Touch and iPhone are deal breakers for me. The iPod Classic has always allowed one to do that. It is highly useful for carrying files around.

danviento
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02/05, 11:35am | report spam | close Reply |
Not Pointless

Actually, many of us were waiting for more capacity because the iPhone is supposed to take the place of a phone AND iPod. IPods are meant to hold all of your music, and until they come out with an iPhone that does, I'd find it hard to justify the purchase of one, despite the cool internet access and such. My library is sitting right around 20GBs in the music category, not even thinking about 100s of GBs of movies (from DVD collection). I personally would like to have space for growth in my music collection and a few videos in terms of a player's capacity.

Until that option is out there, I'll be content with my 3rd Gen iPod like I was with my 2nd Gen until it ran out of room.

Roger@MacNN
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FireWire

I'm pretty sure that was just a move to bridge people over.

kheller2
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5G ! Firewire

testudo... 5G ipods can not sync with Firewire, but they can be charged with firewire.

chucker
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02/05, 01:11pm | report spam | close Reply |
firewire

No, Apple removed Firewire because it wanted to save the extra 50 cents it cost to put it in there. My 5G iPod has firewire and USB.

Maybe they were annoyed by the draconian licensing terms for firewire,

oh wait a second they would have had to license it off of Apple. Way to promote your own technology Apple.

BTW 50 c * 50 million iPods = $25 million per year saving - somebody probably got themselves some nice stock options for that stroke of genius...

Feathers
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02/05, 01:14pm | report spam | close Reply |
Ram charge...

Amazing how, on an iTouch an extra 16GB costs $100 and yet (if you're dumb enough) to add 3GB or RAM to a MacBook direct from Apple (to bring it up to 4GB) it'll cost an extra $850!!!! A full 4GB from Macsales or Crucial doesn't cost more than $200. I still can't believe it, I thought it was a misprint plus RAM from Apple only carries the same one year parts & labour warranty as the laptop whereas pretty much all OEM memory sellers now provide a lifetime warranty!

jerryfrit
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re: ram charge...

feathers, while I'm not chucking rocks at your overall point, you are comparing flash storage against RAM. Of course, many folks make the same misconnection with hard drives...saying, "my computer has 160 GB of 'memory'."

jerryfrit
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of course...

...having said that, the press releases themselves use the phrase "memory," adding to the popular confusion between "memory" and "storage."

danviento
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wASTING SHOWS UP

This is what happens when you purposefully loose money on products like the XBox 360 just to keep the vapor position of "dominant player," even though they still rank third in sales, no matter how you put it.

danviento
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perhaps

Did any of us notice that the 118 million is for the entire previous year, not just the quarters Apple was selling in. Perhaps the numbers for those quarters are low enough to push Apple up to the 28%, and MacNN with its sorry excuse for editors, didn't make this clear.

Don't have time to check the originating site, so I'll let someone else check this out.

testudo
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02/05, 05:27pm | report spam | close Reply |
Re: 5G ! Firewire

testudo... 5G ipods can not sync with Firewire, but they can be charged with firewire.

Then I guess I have a 4G iPod. I would know for sure, but Apple has this absurd policy of not naming any of their devices with actual names or numbers (they don't even use 5G, that's just what everyone calls them so we can differentiate them).

It's as stupid as trying to figure out whether my PowerMac G5 is a "late 2004" model, an "april 2005" model, or a "late 2005" model.

testudo
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02/05, 05:30pm | report spam | close Reply |
stuff

The inability to store files on the iPod Touch and iPhone are deal breakers for me. The iPod Classic has always allowed one to do that. It is highly useful for carrying files around.

c***, thanks for reminding me! I was thinking of a touch, but not being able to store files on it sucks (my iPod saved me when the drive on my G5 bit the big one).

My feeling, as a long time Mac user/Apple follower, is that Apple will wait a bit long, skip 3G altogether and break NEW ground (Apple NEVER does THAT) by shipping iPhone 2.0 with 4G and 32GB.

Yeah, that sounds like something Apple would do. Offer up a feature that people will have to wait a couple of years to even use, by which time they'll want you to upgrade to a newer device.

Loren
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storing files a problem?

[The inability to store files on the iPod Touch and iPhone]

That dog was fed some time ago. Solution here:

http://www.ecamm.com/mac/iphonedrive/

Feathers
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re: re: ramcharge

jerryfrit, I do know the difference between types of "memory" and storage methodologies. Thankfully though, your point actually adds further fuel to the fire given that flash ram is significantly more expensive than dynamic ram. I wonder are the guys in the Applestore back-room wearing balaclavas as they take the orders, most thieves prefer to conceal their identity!

testudo
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Re: storing files a probl

That's a solution for a problem that shouldn't exist at all...

loudpedal
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Weeks after MW??

So I wait for MacWorld to make sure I don't spend $400 on a phone that will be upgraded in a short time and that's exactly what happens. Why didn't they upgrade the phones at MW??

Guest
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3G

3G will only happen if they can get it the chipsets to draw less current than the current ones. With the current 3G chipsets, the iPhone battery life will decrease by at 40-50%.

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