But yet, my relatives' PCs get hosed all the time with viruses and malware, and it hasn't happened to anyone's Macs.

Also, most MacOS X vulnerabilities require services turned off by default to be on, or require physical access to the machine.

are never going to be published by any corporation unless the figures work in the commissioners' favour. In this case Jones has omitted big counter-figures and ignored newer, more secure operating systems in order to adequately convey hi$ point. It's not LYING per se, but it's certainly not pulling out any stops to tell us the whole story.

that vista is relatively new compared to 10.4 so what they should have been comparing is vista to 10.5 which are both new operating systems not their new system to one that has had over a year and a half longer on the market.

Well, if you actually read the report (I know, why would you bother before commenting on it), you would know

(a) Vista has been out for a year (no, really, it has)

(b) the report covers the first year of each OS compared against, not the last 12 months or the entire life of the OS.

(c) the report isn't trying to cover every aspect of security issues (for I doubt anyone has the capacity to perform such a task), but is looking at it both from a quantity of patches and number of patch releases, which he says is of interest to the computer administrators who have to push these patches to their computers.

what a crock...

Yeah, it is a crock to not have a clue as to what's being discussed.

they tried to pass this same claim off not long ago. Vista is sinking so they have to say something. Why else would they be promising v7 in just a couple of years... already! Problem is I bet they really believe this nonsense.

And the MS bullshit continues to flow...

Does anybody believe this s***?

"Fairy Tales by Microsoft". Um, this is what MS has been selling all along. Selling the sky, then shipping you dirt. Repeat every 2-3 years.

the knee-jerk contrarian act is really getting old.

if you really believe Vista is more secure and less vulnerable than Jaguar or Tiger, try running Vista for a month with no anti-virus protection (like all OS X users), let me know that works out for ya.

that Microsoft has made great strides in making their previously laughable security more serious.

It doesn't do anything for my lack of desire to use it, but it's nice to know anyway.

I agree with testudo's comments however. The comparison between Vista and OS X 10.4 is as good as could be expected. Take solace in the fact they compared their WOW™ to Tiger. ;) Otherwise, they would have had to do a comparison of the first 2 months. :P

the knee-jerk contrarian act is really getting old.

Yes, leave it to me to correct someone for failing to even read the article, let alone understand what was being compared.

And if you could please point out what contrarian point I posted, I'd love to hear about it. Oh, wait, you can't, because there was no contrarian point, but that doesn't stop the standard fan-boy from complaining.

if you really believe Vista is more secure and less vulnerable than Jaguar or Tiger, try running Vista for a month with no anti-virus protection (like all OS X users), let me know that works out for ya.

Well, I run Vista with AVG, and so while I do run it with anti-virus, I also know I've yet to be infected, attempted to be infected, or found any infection on my computer (for wouldn't I be told so?).

About half the Vista adopters I know have already run into security problems. HALF! This doesn't raise MS security hackles as no one at MS gives a tinker's dam about how compromised their users are.

I have yet to see a single OSX exploit in the wild. These types of reports are beyond MS propaganda-they're just lying through their teeth now. Desperation? Gotta be. Can't have Apple getting into the double digits in terms of market share. If that happens, MS looses those users forever. 3 percent have been propping up the Mac for years. What will they do with 10 or more percent of the computing marketshare pie. Oh yeah, expose the hacks at MS for what they are, second rate imitators of the company and OS that has, since 1984 defined what personal computing should be, namely-Apple.

Most secure OS-is OSX. Vista is a half baked sieve, a first year computer student could compromise. Nuff said.

The premise of this story is as many pro MS security stories, no in the fine print.

As testudo correctly (use a truth to tell a lie) the article does focus on a very specific part of security that few will read. In fact, no one will-almost. The hope here is, that the great unwashed will once again be duped into laying down money for their shoddy product. How does this differ from the marketing strategy from days gone by? Not a bit.

If you, in fact, incorporate, rather than mitigate the provisos given by the report's author, it will be evident that this is, as ever an attempt to put a positive spin on MS's prize pig. Sorry real world experience shows this porcine to be very nearly as bad as it's preceding OS, XP. I'll go by malware, spyware and virus count for now. MS's 114,000 to Apple's 0. Do the math.

So I guess "nuff" wasn't said.