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Briefly: Win apps in OS X without Windows

updated 07:40 pm EST, Fri November 30, 2007

iPhoto Buddy for charity

In brief: Apple may be planning to out-Windows Windows, iPhoto Buddy proceeds go to charity, an iPodXtras sale has been announced, and there is a new EMR Map-making contest ... Apple may be planning to build the capability to run Windows applications without Windows into Mac OS X. CrunchGear reports that a user on a WINE mailing list has found tantalizing find in the latest version of OS X: hints towards the ability of the OS to handle Windows executables without running Windows. Oh, this is nifty. "Full implementation isn�t even close to being there, but the pieces needed are. If Apple so chose, it could put these pieces together into a Windows compatibility layer that could run .exe files."

iPhoto Buddy proceeds go to charity

Developer Rick Neil has decided that 100% of all donations made to iPhoto Buddy during 2007 will in turn be donated to the following charities in loving memory of his late brother-in-law, James David Bowden: The Cancer Treatment & Research Center; Feed The Children. The current total is $5,574.43, and counting. �More information is available here.

iPodXtras sale

iPod Xtras, an iPod accessory shop, has announced its "Cyber Monday" specials. "Great accessories from all categories are currently at rock bottom pricing. Look for specials on newly released speakers, cases, earphones, and many more great xtras for iPods new and old." Pricing is guaranteed through Monday the 26th at midnight EST.

EMR Map-making contest

EMR 3.0 is a first-person action adventure game, featuring an epic and in-depth story line. It also provides you the tools by which you can create your own EMR maps. �With over 50,000 downloads of EMR, the developers says "we're sure there are some of you out there that would like to create some of your own maps using the EMR universe. �To this end, we are announcing the EMR Map Making Contest." Maps will be awarded for best overall solo play design, best overall net game design, and best overall map architecture. �In addition to the bragging rights, the top rated maps will be included in the 3.1 release of EMR, and the authors will earn prizes.

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Feathers
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11/30, 08:06pm | report spam | close Reply |
.exe

Does Apple really want to introduce this level of vulnerability? Exploit heaven? I don't think so!

BDLatimer
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11/30, 08:13pm | report spam | close Reply |
Full name of EMR

...is "Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge"

It's one of the best add-ons for Marathon which has been created. As such, "EMR" is not a game, but an add-on, which needs Marathon or Aleph One to be useful.

I wish MacNN would spell this out at least ONCE, instead of merely listing the acronym, and implying it is a separate game...

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11/30, 08:35pm | report spam | close Reply |
Sandboxing

I believe they would use the sandboxing feature in Leopard to attempt to protect you from malicious apps.

See: http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/security.html

ZinkDifferent
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11/30, 08:52pm | report spam | close Reply |
Been There...

'Blue Box', anyone?

Nostromo
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11/30, 11:09pm | report spam | close Reply |
Bad idea...

If this is true, you can kiss a lot of OS X native versions of apps goodbye. Why would a company spend the time and money to make a Mac version of something when they can just say "Well, just run the Windows version."

Bad idea.

Bad.

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not bad

If there were parity in the API's between Mac and Windows, this would not be a good thing. However, the ability to use your Windows version, while waiting for the Core * enabled version that can easily be developed in a fraction of the time as the actual Windows version.

Please also note that it is not enabled yet. Apple is very good about timing. They'll feel for the best time to run it, most likely after people are "waiting for SP2" and Apple can also highlight all of the great apps that are Leopard only.

* video, audio, animation, data, foundation, image, services, and text

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not Mac-like

The day Mac OS X can run Windows binaries is the day I stop using a Mac.

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Necessity

I would love to see a sandboxed .exe support in osX, Apple has all the API it needs via an agreement with MS. Games probably won't work but its a nice feature for the occasional app, it would make osX a true upgrade from XP.

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re: bhuot stop using mac

Hi Bhuot,

I thought the day that Mac started using Intel you would stop using a mac ;)

Steve & Co. (aka Apple) have a master plan - global domination... it all started with the ipod and it being a must have by all the kids out there - now they are doing it again with the cellphone market - all focused at selling more Macs - so now you've got a bunch of new Mac users who will be looking at running windows based apps as that is what they have accumulated from their old PC days... this is a very smart idea, Apple is always looking at future possibilities and needs... that is why I'm a Mac user.

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I run EXE apps in OS X

I use Cross Over from www.codeweavers.com

Part of my job as a SysAdmin requires that I install and use a number of small windows exe apps for thermal printer administration, bar code scanner programing, etc

All run perfectly within OS X.

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bhuot what then?

so you will forsake computers altogether or is it Ubuntu for you? I'll assume that was just a violent and uncontrolled overreaction yes? Many people will not get a mac because of one or two pieces of proprietary software that they need to use and boot camp and virtual machines scare them so they stay with what they know will work. WINE has always been a good idea and the security problems people are scared of can't affect the system like it can with Windoze, because it is, you know a "house built on a weak foundation" which OS X is not (as badly anyway, there is always a crack or two even in the best pour of concrete). So take a chill pill, Dell is tanking, more will follow as all they can offer is a clunky sieve-like system that no one wants� makes me think that when they are all down and out Steve will offer up a PC version of OS X that would only run and be supported on "qualified" machines to avoid the hardware and driver h*** in that market. After some time no one in their right mind would pay more for a Dell or Gateway iMac knockoff that actually costs more and does less. You have to guide the lemmings slowly.

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re: not bad

if there were parity in the API's between Mac and Windows, this would not be a good thing. However, the ability to use your Windows version, while waiting for the Core * enabled version that can easily be developed in a fraction of the time as the actual Windows version.

Sorry, but two problems with that. One, you make the assumption that the developers would just GIVE you the Mac upgrade to the software once it becomes available. And, more importantly, that you actually think they would make a Mac version.

Why would a developer waste resources on updating it's software for mac when it already runs on a mac? They all don't have tons of money to spend on projects.

But then you get into the biggest problem. WINE has been around for years, and it still doesn't run all Windows software. If Apple were to actually make this feature, they'd have to either specifically certify each Windows app and announce that (like Crossover does) or put ever-increasing resources into supporting apps as they come about.

And, peter, besides the API transfer being more rumor then fact, there's been a lot of additions to it since that occurred. But, beyond that, most mac users would probably argue that the only windows apps worth running are games.

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The better question

Why would a developer waste resources on providing a Windows version, when everyone in the world will own a MAC?

Doofuses.

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thermal printer admin

@Guest, is this an EFI console? This would indeed solve some problems when i upgrade to an Intel Mac, tx.

@testudo. Some rumors are so persistent they always seem to be true, this is one of them. That said, this is probably just an early implementation to support the .NET runtime environment and nothing more. I'l have to agree that we won't see full API support anytime soon.

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Windows is a good thing

I work at a very large corporation (more than 50,000 employees). You could count the number of Macs on one hand prior to Intel.

Now, Macs have taken over whole departments. That's not to say that they're in the majority - far from it. But they simply would not be an option at all if not for VMWare and Parallels. I develop .NET code in MSVS using VMWare. Needless to say, there's no way I could do that on the Mac without the ability to run Windows.

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Briefly: Win apps in OS X without Windows

updated 07:40 pm EST, Fri November 30, 2007

iPhoto Buddy for charity

.exe

Full name of EMR

Sandboxing

Been There...

Bad idea...

not bad

not Mac-like

Necessity

re: bhuot stop using mac

I run EXE apps in OS X

bhuot what then?

re: not bad

The better question

thermal printer admin

Windows is a good thing

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