Zune 2nd most popular in online Black Friday?

Why is this cross-posted to MacNN? Mac users DO NOT CARE. Quit posting Zune stories on MacNN. They don't work with Macs and it doesn't matter that they compete with iPods -- it's a Mac site, not an iPod site.

Last check on Amazon the Zune was 15th with 4 iPods ahead of it, and 8 iPods total in the top 25 (Only one Zune). What do you want to bet that the iPod outsold the Zune by a factor of about 10-1 over the weekend?

Also f1erhead, if you don't care about the store just skip it, as an AAPL stockholder I appreciate any tech article that is Apple related (which this is).

I think this is a good thing for iPod user and the would be iPod user in general. I want an iPod for a long time but things that prevent me from buying it because I want the FM radio and recording function built-in. Most of the MP3 player have these functions but I don't understand why iPod don't have them ? How hard it gonna be to include these functions ? I want all the other players to grap 60% of the market share. So, Apple will finally realize and include these function to respond to the decline market share. You might ask why don't I buy other brands ? It because I love Apple products, they're just work. I'm using PC right now and I installed Windows XP for more than 10 times already but the reason that I use PC because I want Apple computer that doesn't exist, a midrange Mac. Macpro is too good and too expensive for me, iMac and Mac mini are too less expandable for me. I want a Mac that can put more than one harddisk in it, can change the graphic card, have more than 2 RAM slots. The price can be $300 more expensive than comparable specs PC, I still want to buy it but too bad Apple don't have this type of product. Anyone wishing for the same type of Mac as me ?

the article only interviewed pricegrabber.com, shopping.com and ebay.

Those sites direct people to the most heavily discounted items or people looking for a good deal on used items on ebay. Basically this tells me that the zune only sells when heavily discounted. So microsoft had to give them away to increase market share.

To funny!

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As mentioned, this is ONLY the discounted ($100) Zunes! This is selling of those Zunes already counted in channel stuffed sales numbers. I went to Fry's this weekend and walked up to this lonely salesman to ask a question I had about a cable I wanted. Turned out, he was the in-store Zune salesman and couldn't answer my question. I had gone to him because there were not people :):). As I continued to shop I would glance back and only once saw a couple asking him a question.

Is it possible to actually use a Zune [of any kind] with a Macintosh OS and Computer System?

When did this happen? This is "great" news_ NOT!

ALSO - how is it possible to hook my nintendo Wii up to my Mac? Did I miss this tutorial as well?

$31 on a $350 product is not a significant price drop in any market_

Are you smoking the same Krack Apple was when they came up with tthat "sale" ??

I picked-up 3 Sansa clips (2 GB) with 4 line display and radio and only a tiny bit physically bigger than a shuffle for $35/each this weekend at Best Buy. That even beat the Walmart price of $39 for the 1 GB version. Got them for my kids. They'll do mp3 but not any aac unfortunately so I have to convert from aac each time I load a player up. However these players might be the smallest FM radios you can easily purchase. Apple would have me pay $200 in order to have a display and FM radio even though it is a far better product at that level. Variety is needed. I appreciate the effect Apple has on some of the competition.

I looked at the Zune in a review here last week. Don't care about it since it doesn't appear to work with Mac. I sort of liked the tiny players better anyway. The Zune had some chance b/c it plays aac but I prefer players at least work like flash drives. What's so hard about that? Oh, and I don't like any player subsidizing labels, artists, and music I don't like and choose not to purchase.

the article only interviewed pricegrabber.com, shopping.com and ebay.

Those sites direct people to the most heavily discounted items or people looking for a good deal on used items on ebay. Basically this tells me that the zune only sells when heavily discounted. So microsoft had to give them away to increase market share.

OK, so they only interviewed discount places. And you make the jump to "the zune only sells when heavily discounted". I guess that means no one wants a Wii either, since it was #1. You're stretch of logic is bizarre.

As mentioned, this is ONLY the discounted ($100) Zunes! This is selling of those Zunes already counted in channel stuffed sales numbers.

Two things: (a) it's NOT just the Zune 30s. Read the article, it says it's split between the two models. (b) what does this have to do with 'stuffed channel numbers'. No where does this say "Hey, look how many Zunes MS sold, therefore their sales numbers will skyrocket!". Nothing sold on ebay counts against sales numbers of anyone. Even iPods.

And in case you didn't notice, two other points: (a) the Zune 30s are discounted because of a newer model. The same happens in the Apple world, you know. (b) the Zune 30s are upgradable to the Zune 80's software. This makes them as usable (or unusable) as a Zune 80 at half the cost. If you could get a 5G iPod for half the price of a 'classic' iPod, yet upgrade it to the latest OS, why would you waste the money on the classic? (of course, why you'd want to upgrade the OS on a 5G iPod is beyond me, since the new OS is less capable and less responsive then the previous one).

I also wonder of all the people who just love to slam the Zune and its poor software, implementation, looks, capabilities, ease-of-use, etc, have actually tried one, or they're just bashing it because its made by MS, so it must be horrible.