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Leopard's iCal disappoints, users demand fix

updated 05:25 pm EST, Tue November 13, 2007

Users miss info pane

A number of users are expressing their displeasure with the removal of the iCal drawer in Leopard, and that the substituted pop-up window is inadequate for their needs. Some users say their company depends on the sidebar to provide ready information to many users through their internal iCal server and that the new 'bubble' doesn't provide the same access to that data. Others state that the bubble positions itself in awkward positions when used on a dual monitor setup, making it inconvenient since they have to move the iCal window just to see the requested information.

The complaints aren't targeted exactly at the lack of the old pane per se, rather that Apple should just include the same information that was presented in the new 'bubble', and that it should attach itself better to the event. Some are saying that this "downgrade" is the sole reason that they can not upgrade to Leopard, and that Apple should ask its users what they need to change instead of doing what it thinks is best for everyone. The largest complaint is that the information 'bubble' is too inconvenient to call up - requiring a double-click - in contrast to the old pane that would update as a new event is selected. Almost all are imploring Apple to either modify the current method or to re-instate the drawer, giving users a choice of how they want to use iCal.




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  1. randombob

    Joined: Dec 1969

    +1

    Thought I liked it, but..

    When I first got ahold of the new iCal, I thought I would love the abolition of the drawer, but now to edit an event or put in a note, I have to double-click, the mouse down to the "edit" button, then mouse down to the notes field. That's WAY longer than just mousing over to the notes field like I used to do.

    And where you used to be able to highlight a calendar and ALL of the events in that calendar would be highlighted/become opaque, NOW only an event that is specifically selected does. At first I thought this was pretty cool, but now I find that all the opaque colors can make it hard to tell a red from an orange, and I can't hit a calendar to see what an event is, I have to click on it, then double-click to see that damn pop-up to see what it is....

    And did anyone else notice that they DROPPED the icons for alarms & notes? Used to have a small badge in the upper-right corner for an alarm on the event, notes, etc. Those are gone. Only a badge for attachments now...

    Apple's kind of pissing me off right now. Everyone loves (loved) Apple for their attention to detail, that feeling that someone really thought this through and added that little touch where someone else (cough windows cough) would have just said "enough."

    Now it seems ever more that Apple is saying not just "enough," but "F-you, you must do it this way, it's better because we say so, even if really it's not."

  1. Pismo

    Joined: Dec 1969

    0

    Are you kidding?

    The drawer was a terrible feature! I hated how the drawer would shift the entire window to the left or right and then close when you were done entering data into the calendar (my iCal window is pretty big because I want to see the entire month). I like iCal centered on my screen and when the drawer closed, I had to move it back to the center of the screen. The new iCal is way better because when I want to enter an event, I just select the calendar, double-click the day and start entering data while the window stays centered. If Apple adds the drawer back, at least make it an option so I don't have to use it again. Sorry for the rant.

  1. briandunning

    Joined: Dec 1969

    0

    Amen!

    This has really been bothering me. Glad to hear I'm not the only one.

  1. randombob

    Joined: Dec 1969

    0

    re: are you kidding?

    It's not without its merits, I actually liked the concept, as it saves screen space galore.

    BUT, it's just badly implemented. It needs to pop open as soon as you click on it ONCE, and be fully editable. AND it'd be nice if you could drag text or something over an appt and it would open the pop-up, so you could drop text into the notes. I miss that....

    And the calendar color issue? Thought it was cool, not working out that way. Harder to tell my calendars apart.

    One step forward, two steps back to me.

  1. andrewko

    Joined: Dec 1969

    0

    me too, but then...

    I noticed that there's a nice little command-E shortcut that will bring up the bubble for either an event or to do. Then all of the info is just a few tabs away. I also like how when you tab to the date field, it focuses on the day rather than the month or year. Then when you're done, just type escape and all is well. Much better than the drawer.

    That said, there needs to be a preview somewhere for seeing all of this data without bringing up the bubble.

  1. Guest

    Joined: Dec 1969

    0

    Want drawer back too

    I too want the drawer back. iCal is usable without it, but barely.

  1. inferno10

    Joined: Dec 1969

    0

    Why can't Apple...

    just make iCal use a drawer that opens 'in' into the window. I was always a hater of the drawer that opens out. I just want a window that I can specify as the maximum width and not have a drawer that juts out, ruining the size; I also don't want something that pops up a thing.

    They should take a look at Mail.app's drawers and use that instead of the old drawer or new pop-up thing.

  1. bxs

    Joined: Dec 1969

    0

    Just move the bubble

    Hey - Just Click-hold on the pop-up to move it where ever you want. Resolves the dual display split and other complaints.

  1. jpellino

    Joined: Dec 1969

    0

    how about a hud?

    like most other things in ilife...? with a 1024 screen the old drawer was a deal killer. i actually use ical in its own space now.

  1. BDLatimer

    Joined: Dec 1969

    0

    re: just move the bubble

    Yeah, but once you dismiss it, or click on another event, the bubble CHANGES LOCATION again. This means it's vastly inferior to an "Inspector" window which is context-sensitive, and which remains in one location.

    Just like we had in iCal 2.x (if not also 1.x)...

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