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10/29/2007, 9:20am, EDT

Monday, October 29th

Leopard hacked to run on PCs

Only days after the official launch of Mac OS X Leopard, the software is already said to be running on PCs based on Windows. Members of OSx86 Scene claim to have hacked the OS, and are providing detailed install guides and troubleshooting. Leopard is reported to be partially crippled without Mac hardware, however, most notably in the lack of Wi-Fi support, which may render the OS useless for some.

Installing Leopard on a PC may also violate Apple's official terms and conditions, although it is unknown whether this leaves it vulnerable to the same sort of disabling updates that have affected iPhone hackers. Apple has coped with previous hacks of Mac OS X by attempting to locate those supplying instructions, and taking whatever means necessary to prevent distribution. This leaves those wanting to run Mac OS little alternative but to buy Apple hardware, as no virtualization software currently works without access to at least one Mac computer.


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Why bother?
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10/29, 10:18am, EDT
Those that like PCs don't understand Macs anyway. Those that see the benefit will buy. The one thing that makes PCs hard to manage is the lack of hardware support for odd third party vendors. Macs just work because they limit to what they have tested on. I would think most users don't have a problem with this. And those hardware vendors that conform to open standards should not have any problems on Macs. So why bother with ugly PCs just to get the OS?
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RE: Why Bother?
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10/29, 10:27am, EDT
My "Hacintosh" benchmarks similar to the 3.0GHz Mac Pro for around the price of an iMac. And to top it off, its in a PowerMac G4 case. So its not an "Ugly PC" as you term them. Actually as of lastnight, my Hacintosh is running 10.5 with 100% compatibility.

Thats why I bothered to go the Hacintosh route.
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iCheap < The REAL THING
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10/29, 10:33am, EDT
Talk about cheapskates.

WHy bother with the hacks, lack of support, lack of full optimized features, and support issues to save a few dollars?

Cut down on the fast food consumption and lattes for a few weeks and you could easily own a REAL MAC with all the features, support, warranty and full optimization for the hardware.

I mean come on. You can build your DVD player for your house and save a few dollars but lets be realistic here.

Sanford and Son is not stylish unless your running a salvage yard.

iCheap

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Why? Because I have to!
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10/29, 10:41am, EDT
If Apple offered the machine that I actually need, I wouldn't be contemplating building a dual Mac/Win rig for general purpose/gaming use. What I need is that much-asked for minitower that would fill the current gap in Apple's lineup. But since they refuse to offer it, I'll go elsewhere. I'm tired of Apple telling me what I need, rather than the other way around, as it should be. I want an affordable, expandable machine that runs OS X, and I'm going to have one!
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re: karmatose
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10/29, 10:48am, EDT
The "Ugly" PC is not just s reference to the outside of the case. Look at the inside of a Mac Pro and a WinTel PC. The Mac is clean and elegant inside. When a company takes the time to engineer a product with this much thought, it reflects the quality of the entire design. As people push for the lowest cost, cheapest route to achieve the end result, we will eventually be left with nothing but boring, poorly engineered products. I'll pay the extra for a well-engineered product, thanks.
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10/29, 10:54am, EDT
You did purchase Leopard legitimately, right?

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Re: why bother
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10/29, 11:02am, EDT
Those that like PCs don't understand Macs anyway. Those that see the benefit will buy.

Yes, that's perfectly logical. Except for the fact that people did bother. Which means they understand Macs and Mac OS X and have a desire to run it.

Perhaps they don't want to buy macs is because of how much money it costs to buy a mac, or the fact that Apple has very limited product groups which don't satisfy everyone.

The one thing that makes PCs hard to manage is the lack of hardware support for odd third party vendors. Macs just work because they limit to what they have tested on.

So the Mac fanboy-ism has gotten so bad that you're actually rejoicing having limited choice in products? You are so right. I was thinking that I could spend $1000 on a 16" notebook, but I felt so much better spending $2500 on it instead!

I would think most users don't have a problem with this. And those hardware vendors that conform to open standards should not have any problems on Macs. So why bother with ugly PCs just to get the OS?

Most users don't have a problem dumping their current hardware investment just to try/use a new OS? I would think MOST users would have a problem with that.

And exactly what do 'open standards' have to do with hardware? Most hardware needs drivers. And most drivers are OS specific. So while it may be possible to create a printer which just works when plugged into a Mac or PC, it isn't going to have many features/abilities without a supporting driver.
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why? because i have to!
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10/29, 11:02am, EDT
If Apple offered the machine that I actually need, I wouldn't be contemplating building a dual Mac/Win rig for general purpose/gaming use. What I need is that much-asked for minitower that would fill the current gap in Apple's lineup. But since they refuse to offer it, I'll go elsewhere. I'm tired of Apple telling me what I need, rather than the other way around, as it should be. I want an affordable, expandable machine that runs OS X, and I'm going to have one!
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RE: simdude
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10/29, 11:04am, EDT
I agree that the MacPro is a very well built machine. But you have not seen my Hac... Ive taken a few styling queues from the Mac pro such as custom fabricated hdd bays (that look like they came straight from a Mac Pro), custom fabricated front metal pannel (that looks like it came off a Mac Pro with a back pannel that looks much the same, Ive gone the extra mile and trimmed off any extra wire coming from the psu to make it esthetically pleasing and there are no visable SATA cables. They've all been tucked away and my cooling system mimics what the Mac Pro does. I even built my own fan controller that spools the fans up depending on how hot it gets in the case..

Actually, the guys at my local Mac store all drool over it whenever I bring it in there. Every day people can engineer stuff that rivals what Apple can do, if your devoted enough to get it done right.
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Pics, please Karmatose
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10/29, 11:08am, EDT
Hey, Karmatose. How about some pics of that machine, inside and out?
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