Apple kills Sherlock in Leopard

i have never really used sherlock, but i noticed the leopard install deleted it. out of curiosity, i tried to run it from a back up, and it looks like apple is going as far as to ensure that it does not run under the new os. they really have killed it.

The writing was on the wall for Sherlock when Dashboard was released as part of Tiger. With Leopard, Apple has finally released a decent movies widget to fill the last major gap left by the absence of Sherlock, but I still think Sherlock's movie channel was easier to use and made better use of screen real estate. Too bad. Now I just use a Google Movies bookmark with my zipcode in the URL.

Well its no big miss as it didnt work so well in any country other than the USofA.

I won't miss it - I never ever used it... way back when it was introduced I used to kill it and use the old Finder "Find" command and Spotlight and Widgets well to be honest I never even realised Sherlock made it past 10.2

it was getting pretty useless - Watson was eating its lunch... buy the way - whatever happened to that, sold to Sun and vanished?!

So apple "steals" the idea from Watson, then basically let's it die a slow death.

The worst part of this, to go along with the killing of the 'Classic' environment, is Apple's just plain distaste for customer relations. How hard is it to put on the OS X page "These features of Tiger are no longer available...". But rather than admit they're throwing software away, they just discontinue it without any knowledge and hope no one notices.

And people think that Apple is ready to get into the enterprise market. Not with this type of lack-of-information-flow.

And exactly how many companies can you name, testudo, that tell you what is MISSING from their new products? Any of the major car companies tell you, "Oh, by the way, we've done away with a cupholder in the backseat this year, folks"? Any audio/video manufacturers what they've dropped from this year's TV models? How about Microsoft? For someone who admits/claims to being an Apple investor, you have a heck of a lot of doubts about how this company is run, yet you're more than willing to accept the "blood money" the company makes for you.

and searched for anything - then you used Sherlock_

MacNN - you are inaccurate as always_ Tiger did/does not use Spotlight in the Finder Search window_ The [Apple + F] command brought up a legacy search window that spiders thru the system heirarchy and lists things out that it finds based on you search criteria_

MacNN - do you all just search the internet for news then decide to make things up as you go or what?

This is why I can search for something sitting on my desktop and it doesn't find it_

Spotlight indexes the system before it allows you to search for anything_ Then it allows for various search methods_

Apple [and Jobs via the Keynote] specifically said that Spotlight has also replaced the Finder Search function_

In Tiger - Spotlight is system-wide but is contained to the little icon in the top-right window_

Sherlock info can still be found in the Support section: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.4/en/mh340.html

And exactly how many companies can you name, testudo, that tell you what is MISSING from their new products? Any of the major car companies tell you, "Oh, by the way, we've done away with a cupholder in the backseat this year, folks"? Any audio/video manufacturers what they've dropped from this year's TV models? How about Microsoft?

What does a car company or TV manufacturer have to do with this?

Apple claims Leopard will run most, if not all, your old software. Yet it won't, because they've killed all OS 9 software. Do you think MS could get away with just 'not supporting' older software and not mentioning it? No.

And its not just Apple lacking this information in its press materials. They make NO mention of it whatsoever. Where's the KB articles? Where's the info from WWDC?

Does it ever occur to you that people actually might use the features of an OS? And, therefore, expect an 'upgrade' to said OS to have the same software as the last version, unless told otherwise?

How would you like it if you installed 10.6 and, without any warning, they deleted the entire Mail application because they've decided they have a 'better' way?

For someone who admits/claims to being an Apple investor, you have a heck of a lot of doubts about how this company is run, yet you're more than willing to accept the "blood money" the company makes for you.

And what would you do if you disagree with a company? Just because I don't kiss Jobs' ass over every decision doesn't mean I don't like the company. But it could do its customers a whole lot better. And if they EVER want to have any type of presence in the enterprise market, they need to be more open with their information.

For someone who admits/claims to being an Apple investor, you have a heck of a lot of doubts about how this company is run, yet you're more than willing to accept the "blood money" the company makes for you.

You're saying that shareholders should just shut up and accept the way their company is run? Do you also believe that it's unpatriotic to question your president at a time of war, too?

Testudo was making a point about Apple's readiness for the enterprise market, not about it's ability to market products to consumers.. This is a space where it is absolutely VITAL that a company disclose what is missing from upgrades..

Even Microsoft has learned to do this (at least when it comes to their Enterprise software such as Dynamics) and they are very much on the "quick-sell, quick-implement" side of the Enterprise market.

We're not talking about little Jimmy running his movies on his iPod - We're talking about Big Jimmy running a hundred million dollar company on his servers. Apple is making claims that they are ready to serve this market, I'd have to agree with Testudo that they are far from ready - they are certainly not a company I would trust as a partner.