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10/25/2007, 3:55pm, EDT

Thursday, October 25th

Safari dusts IE, Firefox in performance

Safari is the king of speed according to a study performed by Michael Czeiszperger, general manager of Web Performance. Czeiszperger tested the Windows versions of Apple's Safari, Microsoft's Internet Explorer 7 (IE7) and Mozilla's Firefox 2, concluding "In all cases, the Safari 3 Windows beta was the fastest browser in terms of page load time," according to a Macworld UK report. The tests were performed by browsing the 16 most-trafficked sites as listed by Alexa. Interestingly, the performance differences between Safari and IE, and Safari and Firefox, were minimal when the site was pulled from the local cache, not the actual server. " When pulling a page from a remote server, however, Safari was on average 1.1 seconds faster than IE 7, and 1.4 seconds faster than Firefox.

When Apple first released Safari for Windows, it claimed "Safari loads pages up to 2 times faster than Internet Explorer 7 and up to 1.6 times faster than Firefox 2. And it executes JavaScript up to 2.8 times faster than Internet Explorer 7 and up to 1.6 times faster than Firefox 2."

Apple's performance claims for its Safari browser were subsequently challenged by various reports. Apple's CEO told WWDC attendees during his keynote that the new browser was faster than its Internet Explorer and Firefox components; however, some tests performed showed that "Safari is slower than both IE 7 and Firefox in the login page and message index tests, in both cases by a substantial margin. Only when loading Google Calendar does Safari have a slight edge, clocking in at 12.8 seconds to IE's 17 seconds. But even there, Firefox has both the other browsers beat."


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yaaaay
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10/25, 4:03pm, EDT
Goooo Safariiii
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time's wasting
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10/25, 4:13pm, EDT
when it comes to multi-gigaherts processors, high speed DDR2/3 memory, fast SATA drives, super chip sets, and hype - all where nanoseconds rule, it's nice to know that a browser can save a second (a billion nanoseconds), giving more time to ponder clicking the next to do icon
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Beta
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10/25, 4:16pm, EDT
Since Safari is still a Beta on Windows, I do not see the point of the comparisons.
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A more useful metric
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10/25, 4:22pm, EDT
would be how many secure/financial sites work across the browsers. Because whatever the reason, if the consumer cannot access a site with a certain browser than THAT wastes time-and I guarantee it's more than 1-2 seconds.

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too use to Firefox
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10/25, 5:27pm, EDT
Firefox works for my financial sites and my yahoo. I've gotten so use to Firefox that it wouldn't make sense for me to change to Safari to save a second.
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safari/win
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10/25, 6:12pm, EDT
Just installed it a couple of days ago. Can't say I was thrilled with the browser speed. It took forever to load Apple's own start page.

Plus, they now have two different ways of doing menus in their windows products. In Safari, it has the classic general window look (title bar and menu bar separate - although Apple might do well to contemplate following Windows UI guidelines, rather than trying to supplant their own into other's OS's) while iTunes has the menu bar IN the title bar (OK, maybe Apple could just spend some time working on a consistent guideline that at least they could follow).

If MS or Opera or anyone else converted their browser for the Mac and it looked more like the Windows version vice a mac program, they'd get laughed off the downloads page.
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Re: safari/win
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10/25, 6:52pm, EDT
I have been using both Safari 3 beta and Firefox on my XP work machine, and while I have fewer problems with FF I cannot rightly complain about Safari as it is in beta. For now I leave FF as default and never touch IE7.

Still, Safari is certainly fast for me.

I have wondered about how Apple might adapt Safari to the Windows GUI guidelines, and it is clear that (as with iTunes) it cannot be done in a literal fashion without destroying the appearance. The best they can do is to copy iTune's approach, which they probably will at final release.

I have come to really dislike the Windows MDI UI (menus that are contained within each app window) due to the clutter and inefficiency of the method. What a drag to have to use it at all.
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safari 3
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10/26, 7:46am, EDT
Any idea if Safari 3 final will actually be released for Tiger?
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MS can't even do it
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10/26, 9:15am, EDT
MS can't even conform to their non-existant guidelines. I can show you at least 4 MS programs (not even third party programs) that DOES NOT have the same behavior for basic functions such as opening new windows, saving, and closing windows. Nevermind the bugs, badly designed interface ("quirks") and other inconsistencies of the MS and in general windoze programs.

No, iTunes and Safari does follow the poor design choices implemented in windoze, as the menu bar on top is not at the most useful place (which is on the upper edge).
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Safari for Win Beta 3...
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10/26, 4:13pm, EDT
is also the quickest Browser to Crash - repeatedly_

It's buggy as hell and completely unstable_ the Mac beta isn't much better_
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