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ExtremeTech: Mac fans are the worst

updated 05:50 pm EDT, Wed October 10, 2007

Jason Cross hates Mac fans

An ExtremeTech editorial opines that the worst part of Apple Inc. is its loyal fan base. Responding to a reader email about his impression of a MacBook Pro one year into use, Jason Cross says that there are plenty of things OS X does very well, and better than any version of Windows, but the thing he hates most about using a Mac are the "Apple fans." He says that while the stereotype of rabid fan does not represent all Mac users, "there are enough bad apples (pardon the pun) to spoil the bunch." In the piece, Cross uses typical rhetoric, arguing that many Apple "fans" persistently claim that Microsoft and others steal ideas from Apple, attempting to point out instances where Apple has allegedly copied intellectual property: "Dashboard in OS X rips off Konfabulator and other widget engines predating it, Spaces knocks off many prior Virtual Desktop features, [...] that fancy CoverFlow stuff was purchased from third-party developer Steel Skies."

Cross also claims that Apple fans have a notion that the company can do no wrong. He writes "When other companies, especially arch-rival Microsoft, does the same exact thing, it's a travesty and obviously clear evidence of why the courts should take them down. When Microsoft bundles its own software with Windows, it's time for antitrust litigation. When Apple does the same with Mac computer or OS X, they're not shutting out competitors--they're adding value."

He also points to the iPhone's lack of real 3rd party applications, and the lockdown from Apple's partner AT&T. "You know, AT&T refusing to provide unlock codes for iPhones is against federal regulations, right? Where's the outrage?" He concludes "To all you Mac users that are calm, rational, objective, and fair: god bless you. Now, could you please give the Cult members a hard kick in the ass?"

by MacNN Staff





  1. henjin

    Joined: Dec 1969


    I agree Apple fans worst

    Every damn time a new user complains the fans leap on them, flaming and acting like idiots. This will hurt the company in the long run. Hurling abuse at those who have legitimate complaints will only strengthen the resolve of others like me who will insist Apple abides by rules we once insisted MS follow. Europe at least has the stomach to treat Apple with the same laws it made for MS. Apple fans have to understand their desire for Apple to take market share means that laws will also apply to them. Treat newcomers with respect, be patient and kind, you'll see Apple really grow. Treat newcomers like idiots and fools and they will never buy an Apple again. Fact is the world is full of choice. Fact is a lot of Apple fans pine for a day when there is no choice. I am for one tired. I'll be buying an HP Blackbird 002 as at least I'll not have to put up with the fest every time I log a problem or complaint.

  1. Herod

    Joined: Dec 1969


    the reason is

    apple/mac users have been crapped on for about 15 years.

    sorry if we are a little defensive.

  1. dscottbuch

    Joined: Dec 1969


    MS=monopoly; Apple not

    Using bundling of software as an example shows his ignorance or willful blindness. The issue with bundling is not whether it adds value or not, it does in both cases, but as a Monopoly MS has to abide by different rules. So both statements he quotes are true - MS bundling bad, Apple bundling good. Different legal circumstances. MS fanboys are actually far worse.

  1. pysan

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Welcome Choice

    I would also go out on a limb and say we welcome choice, we just want it free to all. For all of my mac days that has been a 2nd class computing citizen unless we jump through gigantic hoops. A simple thing like viewing a website as designed should not be platform specific!

    I would love to have Apple and MS, and perhaps a third, Linux or some other new platform, all keeping each other innovating, as long as all interacted seamlessly on a network and in other computing environments.

  1. Eyce_Nine

    Joined: Dec 1969


    I agree as well

    If you want to say something bad about Microsoft, very few people will mind at all, but as soon as you say something against an apple product its a madhouse.

    That said I am probably just as bad, but only about apple products I actually own. hehe.

  1. Filburt

    Joined: Dec 1969


    2nd worst

    Amiga fans are the worst. We are number two!

  1. Tralthamidor

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Mac fans

    Mac fans really are the worst. Especially the ones on the G5's. Sometimes they would just rev up and the cat would run at of the room. Apple must buy their fans from the people that make the cheap bathroom fans, they are way too loud.

    I have to say though that with the MacPro the fans are a lot better. :) -dr

  1. audiot

    Joined: Dec 1969


    I agree

    Nowhere was the Mac zealot thing more in evidence than with the whole Gabe Newell thing... where he said, off the cuff, that Apple was hard to deal with in gaming... that put the rabid fan base in a lather. "Gabe Newell is an idiot... etc."

    He wasn't ripping Apple, just making a comment. Besides, te guy is trying to get gaming into a better place on the Mac. You'd think people would agree with the obvious: that Mac gaming is 2nd rate. But instead, they released the hounds on this guy... Amazing!

  1. Omek

    Joined: Dec 1969


    agree to disagree

    At my college I got extreme flack for using a Mac. And constantly, I had to listen to bickering when students were forced to use a Mac Lab on campus.

    Even through High School I listened to the same griping from my friends.

    However, like herod said, Apple users have been belittled for 15 years. I, personally, choose to take the high road and just let people have their opinions. I can see how some can get incredibly defensive about Apple products. Yet, MS users do it as well, so don't act like you are complete saints either.

    I choose not to use Windows, but that doesn't mean I hate the people who use it. Several of my friends are Windows and Linux users.

    And Apple products are by no means perfect either. Competition is great, and with it we can all have improved products. Everone just needs to lighten up slightly!

  1. G4_Kessel

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Mac Fans...


    LOL! I agree with you!

    Although the ATI fans come in close second... my X1900 sounds like a jet flying by!

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