Leopard nears final, some Macs disqualified
updated 09:15 am EDT, Mon September 24, 2007
Leopard nearing final
Participants in Apple's Developer Connection can now download a new preview build of Mac OS X Leopard (10.5), one which may be the first release candidate. Build 9A559, a 6.5GB download, is said to have only two known issues, in contrast to other builds distributed earlier in the summer. With a public release of Leopard due at some point in October, Apple must finalize the operating system within weeks, and so may be considering its latest version as a possible final build. The Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard pre-release version for developer testing currently lists system requirements as a G4 867MHz or faster processor, which makes several older Mac models incapable of running the forthcoming operating system.
The largest issue with 9A559 is said to be archive installations. Owners of PowerPC Macs may have trouble when using this path to move from Tiger to Leopard, but only if they attempt to copy over user settings. Apple is currently suggesting that users perform a clean install, an upgrade install, or simply avoid carrying over user settings.
In addition, Apple is apparently asking developers to test the delivery mechanism for updated HP drivers. If developers are using HP printers, Apple asks that they should deselect the HP-specific printer drivers from the Mac OS X 10.5 Installer, instead opting to install the drivers by running Software Update after the installation of Leopard is complete.
[updated to clarify HP driver 'issues' with this release]











definitive
09/24, 09:58am reply
Got to love the definitive nature of this. "Hey, Apple's posted a new build. And it may be the first release candidate."
Although, if it were the first release candidate, wouldn't they have called it RC-1?
And there are only two 'known' issues? I find that hard to believe. More likely only two issues they 'know they must fix before release'.
And I can't wait until they remove all the debugging code, so we can find out how much snappier this thing is, for that's what its all about!
testudo
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Yes. Yes.
09/24, 09:59am reply
Two noted issues. Does not mean it's finished yet. Safari and Mail still hangs and crashes regularly. iMovie still won't open. Some small bugs yet, but damn this is pretty frickin' good so far.
Dare I say that this is the biggest upgrade of OS X yet?
- - e r i k - -
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Re: yes yes
09/24, 10:42am reply
Dare I say that this is the biggest upgrade of OS X yet?
Dare I ask what is so much 'bigger' about this upgrade vs any of the others? Or, in fact, what's really in this upgrade to warrant 10.4 users a need/desire to upgrade?
testudo
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Several needs
09/24, 11:13am reply
Several needs to upgrade. Built in boot camp, Time machine, preview any files with quicklook are 3 that come to mind right away which I will use. Time machine will be my biggest priority. The new iChat will also be fun to use as well. The finder upgrades with viewable folders in the dock will also come in handy. So there's lots of reasons to upgrade to Leopard. Certainly more useful reasons to upgrade than Windows users had with Vista.
horvatic
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The third know issue
09/24, 11:18am reply
is that FileMaker wont launch at all.. crashes right away. Guess that's a show stopper also.. ;-) And number 4?
Marook
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give it to Adobe
09/24, 11:21am reply
Because if it doesn't work with/breaks CS3, I won't be upgrading.
zl9600
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Upgrade? new machine
09/24, 11:43am reply
I won't be buying any upgrades to Leopard, with the exception of having it shipped with a new machine when I buy. I bought Tiger, but it was MUCH more revolutionary than 10.5 I think.
I'm with testudo on this one. 10.4 brought us spotlight, which rocks, though people love to complain about it. I find that most people who complain forget what it was like before it hit the scene. There's some nice stuff in 10.5, don't get me wrong, but it's not the end-all-be-all of operating systems. It seems to me if you've got 10.4, you've got 95% of what's new and hot already.
But then again, with a price tag of a measly $129, I guess that extra 5% of features could be considered well worth it. So I don't harp on anyone for jumping to it. I just figure I'll wait until I upgrade machines (hopefully with the next MBP revision – c'mon BD drives!)
randombob
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re: give it to adobe
09/24, 11:45am reply
dude - CS3 works fine in the Betas thru last month_
Adobe has merely stated that they will not announce a 100% compatability with Leopard until after it is officially released_
This is nothing new_
As for Leopard being "bigger" on eway or another - I'd wouldn't have used that word - but more to the point that the interface perfomance has been drastically improved over Tiger_
Which in turn Tiger performance was significantly improved over Panther_
Something else that has been over-hauled and noticeablly improved is Spotlight and the overall search capabilities in Leopard_
The old Find File option in the Finder has been migrated to Spotlight so now this takes advantage of file indexing_
I'm looking forward to Spaces and the Stacks and having them stable and functional_ Thru most of the Betas they have not been stable_
I've had a chance to play with QuickLook - pretty damned cool_
I know several people looking forward to the Time Machine feature since they never back anything up and are constantly "losing" files_
UberFu
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A Better Finder
09/24, 12:15pm reply
i. e. a Finder that can properly handle remote volumes without halting to a crawl when the server goes down AND improved printing with a single dialogue box would get me to move over to Leopard.. these things have been overlooked for ages..
ruperts
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why bother, testudo
09/24, 01:21pm reply
Why do I even bother replying to a testudo post?
> Or, in fact, what's really in this upgrade to > warrant 10.4 users a need/desire to upgrade?
Only about the fact that it's about 10 times faster in nearly all operations, including on older G4 systems - but I'm sure that's insignificant to you on your BeOS system.
As for randombob:
> It seems to me if you've got 10.4, you've got > 95% of what's new and hot already.
No, you won't.. Use it before making such sweeping generalizations.
ZinkDifferent
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