Spell it out for me. TV Out does or does not work?

It DOES work, but only with Apple supplied cables, right?

Yeah, that was an absolutely horrible write up. lol. I still have no idea what they're talking about.

from the apple store: Apple Composite AV Cable

Connect an iPod to your television with the Apple Composite AV Cable, gather up your friends, and watch videos or slideshows together on the big screen. You can also connect the Composite AV Cable to your stereo or powered speakers for a room-filling audio experience.

The Composite AV Cable connects to your iPod or Universal Dock via the 30-pin dock connector and to your TV, home theater receiver, or stereo receiver via the composite video and red/white analog audio ports. The cable also features a USB connector that you can plug into a power source, such as a computer or the included USB Power Adapter.

Apple Component AV Cable

Connect an iPod to your television with the Apple Component AV Cable, gather up your friends, and watch videos or slideshows together on the big screen. You can also connect the Component AV Cable to your stereo or powered speakers for a room-filling audio experience.

The Component AV Cable connects to your iPod or Universal Dock via the 30-pin dock connector and to your TV, home theater receiver, or stereo receiver via the component (Y, Pb, and Pr) video and red/white analog audio ports. The cable also features a USB connector that you can plug into a power source, such as a computer or the included USB Power Adapter.

Note: Component video output to television is supported by iPod nano (third generation) and iPod classic at 480p or 576p resolution, and by iPod touch at 480i or 576i resolution.

So the "a/v" cable I now have, the one I did not buy from them, will not work with the new Putzs?

Another clear sign that they really, really are the new m$.

b*******

"include an Apple authentication chip -- such as the iPod iPod"

?

Does this mean that all our iPod accessories that we've garnered through the years won't work with the newest iPods, if they lack this chip? (Including FM transmitters, voice recorders, etc)?

So now apple, the supposed proponent of non-DRM music for the consumer, is basically adding DRM to their hardware products so that companies can't make products to work with the iPod without paying apple money to include a chip.

This is absolutely no different then Brother adding chips to their toner cartridges so only Brother cartridges will work with the printer. And we all know how much we love stuff like that!

BTW, don't be surprised to see someone get sued for reverse engineering the 'authentication chip', using the beloved DMCA against them.

So Apple, in the last few weeks, has (a) added ringtones, which you can convert SOME of your songs (only those approved by Apple and purchased from the iTMS store) to a ringtone (b) buy a ringtone for the same price as a full song, (c) disabled all but blessed components on the ipods, (d) created a new iPod based off the phone, but kept out obvious and desired features (mail, for example) to try to keep people buying the iphone, and (e) arguing with NBC over pricing, because they're not selling enough videos and want to try to spur AppleTV/iPod sales.

paulc seems to be stating it clearly. But I'm sure people here will defend apple and their motives, as they do with everything apple does.

Come on now paulc, do you really expect every accessory you purchase to work with any and all future iPods you purchase? Apple changes component designs for reasons other than just s******* you over.

Well, the headphone jack on any Photo/Video iPod has the ability to output composite vid and stereo audio. Apple differed in their wiring than Sony and other camcorder "triple-plugs" allowing stereo audio with a normal cable and putting the video on the extra ring (not what the other guys did). I don't see how this will be affected by "lock out chips" -- which as far as I can tell is a simple resistor on pin 21 - perhaps they change the pin or the values. I don't think there is a chip though. That's silly Check pinouts.ru