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Apple looking to drop TV show prices by 50%?

updated 09:40 am EDT, Fri September 7, 2007

Apple at fault in NBC spat


Demands by Apple, not NBC, may be the cause of the companies' ruptured iTunes agreement, a new report suggests. Movie trade publication Variety cites three unidentified sources, who say that Apple has told networks and studios that it would like to cut TV episode prices from $1.99 to 99¢, the same amount it charges for protected music tracks. This may have been the catalyst for the NBC decision, even though it could have have kept the $1.99 price through automatic contract renewal.

Apple initially accused NBC of wanting to double the wholesale cost of content, something it has since denied, saying it only wants pricing flexibility and stricter piracy protection.

The greater issue, Variety's sources say, is the potential damage reduced pricing could do to the DVD market. Whereas the newly-released box set for Heroes costs an average of $40 at retail, the 99¢ fee could buy all 23 episodes for less than $23, albeit without bonus features. This sort of situation could discourage buying box sets, and thereby harm the relationship of companies like NBC with retailers such as Best Buy and Wal-Mart.

Similarly, only Disney -- in which Apple CEO Steve Jobs is a major shareholder -- has been willing to release movies on iTunes and DVD simultaneously, the former versions costing just $12.99.

Other sources and networks and studios say they are not inherently opposed to slashed video prices, since episodes of older TV shows are inherently less valuable to them than new ones. ABC is reportedly amenable to this plan, and to satisfy Apple's demand for pricing simplicity, another suggestion is a tiered menu: 99¢ for library shows, $1.99 for new titles, and $2.99 for the biggest hits, or shows from premium networks (Showtime, etc.).

An Apple representative has refused to confirm or deny price cuts, reiterating that the company would not agree to a "dramatic price increase" sought by NBC.


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  1. Elektrix

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    Huh?

    "Whereas the newly-released box set for Heroes costs an average of $40 at retail, the 99¢ fee could buy all 23 episodes for less than $23, albeit without bonus features."

    But that's exactly it. The pricing for the downloadable lower quality episodes is out of whack.

    Right now, you pay almost as much as the DVD boxset to just have the episodes themselves, no bonus features, etc.

    Moreover, if you were a consumer who did pay $46 for all the downloaded episodes, when the Heroes DVD boxset DOES come out, you may be less inclined to fork over another $40 again.

    If the networks thought about this a second, they'd see that the best of both worlds would be consumers who buy the episodes online for 99 cents (for the convenience of having the episodes almost as soon as they air), and then buy the DVD boxset when it comes out (for the bonus features, higher quality, etc).

  1. Monde

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    Network Folk...

    These network folk and their mouthpiece magazine simply grind against is the fact that they do not own a cut of the distribution. Any moneys made from this new revenue source are all gravy.

    Apple set this price point early on. They didn't want to lower it or you'd see the other $1.99 networks bailing too. If you think about that, it makes those "reliable" sources into something less than honest. Anyone who knows a drop about any of the media industries, will tell you, they are greedy in the purist definition of the word. They finally found someone they couldn't push around and don't like it. If they wanted the level of control demanded here they'd of had to invent something like itunes years ago.

    NBC/Universal took their marbles home. Good riddance to them.

  1. eldarkus

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    price

    The rice drop makes total sense. Just like elektrix said.. it's about quality. Why would I pay $46 to buy Heros, when the DVD is $40, has bonus content and MUCH higher quality??

    And as for availability, i got one word for the networks... TORRENTS! I could download a HD copy of last nights Heros and not pay a dime.. so you do the math.

    Riddance NBC...

  1. jpellino

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    whatever happened...

    ... to market forces? Oh, that's right - we don't want to upset the delicate behemoth that is WalMart. They're like the Hummer of retail - supposedly the biggest toughest thing on the block, and everyone treats them like they were made of butterfly wings. Talk to the folks at Rubbermaid or Vlasic or Huffy. All three of them bleeding money in their irreplaceable relationship with WalMart.

  1. Rezzz

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    the day apple gives in..

    ..to the studios pricing demands, is the day Apple becomes just another distribution w**** for the greed that is the music, tv and movie industries.

    give an inch..

  1. UberFu

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    re: huh?

    "Nail on the Head" Elektrix

    That's the problem with all online pricing for the content w/o the packging and extras_

    You pay as much or more for some computer data - whereas if you wait and buy the physical product - this will include the higher quality and the Extra Features - but also includes the packaging and if something like this came with printed material_

    That's why I think it's bullshit with the audio downloads - it doesn't come with the case - the CD - the Lyrics booklet/front cover like the physical store bought options - but the pricing is pretty muych the same_

    So in reality the Music Companies and by extension the Movie Production companies are actually making more money off of the online downloads than they would on the physical merchandise_

    This doesn't even include marketing and distribution - so someone buying the CD is getting more for their money - than if they downloaded the track_

  1. simdude

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    99 cents would be perfect

    At that point, I would probably buy all the shows I wanted to see through iTunes and drop my cable down to the minimum (mostly, to keep internet). The simplicity of iTunes to get the shows would allow me to justify episodes this cheap.

    Let's say you follow 6 TV series. Assuming about $30/season, at $180, that's about 3-4 months of cable. Of course, I'm not getting HD for this price so there's still a good market for HD-DVD/HD-cable etc. Sounds like another revenue stream for the networks. I guess recording off the air for free is still an option.

  1. UberFu

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    except that

    ABC is owned by Disney_

    MacNN you all are morons_

    No s*** ABC is inclined to go along with Disney and Apple - it's one big happy family_

    And you idiots really - really - really need to STOP QUOTING YOURSELVES !!!

  1. sixcolors

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    99 cents I'd buy!

    I'd buy way more shows if they were 99 cents each!

  1. cblackmo

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    Unlikely/bold-faced lie

    This is either just a silly rumor; or a plain lie to distract us from NBC's lunacy.

    1) Apple believes in being simple - not being a simpleton. There is no reasonable motivation for identical pricing for audio and audio+video.

    2) This rumor would only slightly begin to make sense if Apple were also considering to cut the price of songs to perhaps $0.69 or $0.59. As well as cut the price of music videos. And I have a feeling we'd be hearing a lot more noise from the other labels if this were the case.

    3) And while people complain about the $1.99 price for shows compared to a DVD box-set; don't forget the value of convenience and portability. Try travelling around with DVD box-sets in your bag or pocket, and then tell me if the downloads should be worth less or more than a DVD-set.

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