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Apple takes "silver" in green survey

updated 10:40 am EDT, Mon August 20, 2007

Apple EPEAT ranking

Apple's laptops perform well by US environmental standards, but are not perfect, according to recent information. Apple is one of a number of companies evaluated by EPEAT, a government body tasked with approving computers before they can be purchased by other federal institutions. The group assigns gold, silver and bronze medals to products based on a variety of criteria; to reach gold, a computer must not only pass 23 mandatory standards, but 21 of 28 optional ones.

Of the laptops evaluated by EPEAT, Apple has just five silver-level systems, all MacBook Pros between 2.2 and 2.4GHz. Silver implies that at least 14 of the optional criteria have been met. While this is better than Gateway, which has 28 bronze-level systems, and Acer, which is not EPEAT-compliant at all, the statistics pale next to Dell's two gold and 12 silver laptops, and Toshiba's five golds, 15 silvers and four bronzes. Lenovo has the largest number of EPEAT-compliant products at 48 silvers, plus one bronze.

Apple has been a focus of environmental criticism, mainly from Greenpeace, which in the past criticzed the company for failing to remove chemicals like arsenic and mercury, or control the number of computers ending up in Third World landfills. Apple has pledged to remedy these problems within the next few years.




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  1. testudo

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Uh-oh!

    Its environmental criticism! Let's hang the b*******!

  1. testudo

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    But...

    How many laptop models does Apple have? I would think 3 base models, but not much more on top of that. So five Silver would be, well, five out of seven or something.

  1. Flying Meat

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Ooooo

    I hate it when options are mandatory.

  1. christophersj

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Easy to be cynical

    Its intellectually lazy to be cynical.

    Testudo, what are you saying, that environmental criticism shouldn't happen? What kind of protective moat do you have around your castle in the coming years? And we should have never let Nixon sign the Clean Air Act either? That was a result of environmental criticism.

    Flying Meat, then you are living in the wrong century. Nobody likes to be forced, but its not about "controlling" you, its about how your (and my) behavior effect others.

    And its not that bad. I mean, do you really complain on a daily basis that you had to have a catalytic converter put on your current car? Did you take to the streets to scream that the "option" to not have one really made you feel oppressed? Please.

    It is really, really easy to be cynical. What about helping society make this transition in a way that does keep our freedom intact. What kind of tech can you help develop that will help with that? How can the power of a Mac help?

    - Christopher Johnson

  1. Flying Meat

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    doood

    lighten up. I was merely pointing out the generally considered mutual exclusivity of "mandatory" "options". Not that they are necessarilyy bad.

    testudo was pointing out the history of posts regarding the subject. He was not proposing what you suggest at all.

    Sheesh! :P ;) :) Literal? Much?

  1. MSchienle

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Re: easy to be cynical

    It's difficult to take environmentalists seriously when they are doing so many ridiculous things over the years and through today. From burning cars to stop pollution (happened in my home town), to today's stories of urging people not to fly to combat global warming. Environmentalists are giving PETA a run for their money in ridiculous actions meant to further their agenda.

  1. Roehlstation

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Don't Fly?!

    So somehow a 2 hour flight on a plane with 400 passengers is more polluting than putting 400 people on a train for 20 hours? Or worse yet 100 cars driving 20 hours?

    I'm all for conservation and do all I can, but the sensationalizing of what some of these people do take away all credibility.

  1. christophersj

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Lighten Up

    Flying Meat, it is exactly because of the "history" of these posts that I am calling a spade a spade. You may "feel" like the intentions of the posts were only humor, but read them again. The humor is clearly designed to say, "this stuff is frivolous".

    So instead of just whining about the posts, I instead asked for positive contributions rather than just "you being cynical and my belly aching about it".

    Mschienle, of course there are ridiculous elements on the fringe of a societal movement. But unless you are living in a hole you KNOW that is not representative of the vast majority of people who want an energy independent America and a sustainable society that can last for thousands of years. I mean, even auto and energy companies are coming around now. Do you lump them in with "car burners" too?

    Would you judge other mainstream movements with their fringe elements? Are Republicans the same as Neo-n****? Are Union workers the same as Stalin and Mao? You know they are not. But your comments may leave the impression to the young and naive here that that is the case with environmentalists.

    We can "lighten up" all we want, but the comments here have not been "light". They have been statements, disguised as humor, aimed at undermining, or at least making frivolous, the very legitimacy of critiquing the way we live as a society.

    And what I am saying is this: if even Brent Scowcroft and Thomas Freidman and GE are looking at how to contribute to a change in how our society behaves environmentally, then maybe instead of laughing at environmental evaluations of Apple, we can be supportive of the effort and watch our favorite computer company sail with flying colors well into the century.

    - Christopher Johnson

  1. Roehlstation

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    What they are missing

    I've yet to see an Acer laptop last longer than 2 years before it is completely junk. Toshiba laptops aren't much better. And Yes Apple has 5 Laptops in the Silver category, but they don't have as many models so a great majority of their notebooks are better for the environment than the disposable computers put out by the other companies. The only other notebooks I've seen that have similar life expectancy to Apple is the Former IBMs, will Lenovo continue that trend it the question. I'm typing this on my 5 year old 12" PowerBook G4.

  1. christophersj

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Using old Macs

    Agreed. My mother is using a 2001 Pismo G3 Powerbook for email, web, and writing. She loves it. Its running OS 10.4. The only limitation now is the stuttering h.624 and flash movies.

    -Christopher

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