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PC Mag: Mac sales set to explode

updated 11:20 am EDT, Fri August 10, 2007

Mac sales set to explode?


An industry commentator is arguing that sales of Apple's Mac computers are on the verge of a dramatic increase, moving past the 10 percent mark to 15 percent, 20 percent or even more of the market. A confluence of factors is cited: at a basic level, Macs are said to be easier to recommend in the current era, because they require far less technical support compared to machines running Windows; beyond issues with spyware and malware, the Mac OS interface is generally easier to use.

There are three other major factors though, such as the lukewarm success of Windows Vista, an operating system designed to be closer to par with Mac OS X and which in fact emulates several features (such as widgets). Its ease-of-use is said to fall apart upon inspection however, whereas modern Macs are described as a "self-contained ecosystem" comprised of the hardware, OS and applications.

The transition to Intel CPUs has also gone smoother than expected, since it has brought performance and compatibility benefits, including dual-booting, without attendant viruses or homogenization with the PC world.

Lastly, the price disparity between Macs and PCs is decreasing, such that the perceived advantages of a Mac may be worth a little extra, such as the bundling of the iLife suite with every system. Eventually, it is claimed, the cost difference may become non-existent. The PC Magazine commentator suggests that Apple will break 12 percent market share by 2012, and much more by 2025.


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  1. eldarkus

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    seriously...

    predicting the computer world up to 2025?? yea, ok.. good luck with that!!

  1. Jonathan-Tanya

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    pipe dream

    It's a nice thought, and I love Macs. But it isn't a perceived difference that my vista pre-loaded compaq laptop was brand new after rebates for $399 from Circuit City, and the cheapest mac notebook is twice that. It isn't a perceived difference that you can get a windows vista tower, with upgradeable graphics card slot, for 500 - 600 dollars and Mac's with upgradeable graphics start at $2499. Yes the imacs are great for a certain segment, but some of us really want an upgradeable, expandable mac, and its been since the G4 days when you could buy one for $1199.

  1. SubPop

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    scary thought....

    What if the Mac OS were to become the new dominant operating system while Apple still keeps a stranglehold on the hardware industry? (yes, pipe dream, I know, but humor me here).

    What would be worse than a company that has a monopoly on software? A company that has a monopoly on software AND hardware?

    I love Apple machines, but..

  1. ttrostel

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    The rapid pace of change

    Lets face it, the hardest part of a Mac to replace is going to be the graphics chip. With the iMac and indeed with the mac-mini and ALL laptops regardless of who makes them aren't designed in such a way that the graphics card can be replaced. So ... where does that leave us? Well you can still replace the hard drive and upgrade the memory. You may also choose to add some sort of special network card or something in the future.

    Its pretty clear that if you want a hard core gaming system you're leaning toward Microsoft systems. DiretX makes it easy for the game designers to write pretty robust titles which work well on a variety of machines. If on the other hand you're not trying to run on the bleeding edge of graphics, the Apple line starts to really look pretty good. I've got a Mac mini I got for $600 refurbished a year ago from the Apple store. Its got a full regular warantee and honestly outperforms my daughters brand new laptop with all the latest Vista, 2gb of ram, and a supposedly faster processor when running World of Warcraft. For other applications like word processing, surfing the web, watching movies, and editing media ... hers is completely left in the dust.

    Ask yourself this question, do you NEED the expandability of extra card slots? If the answer is yes, maybe the Mac isn't for you. If the answer is no ... take a few minutes to really compare the prices and performance of comparable systems. Don't compare the Mac to something you can buy off the shelf from Wal-Mart or some other stripped down machine with no software. REALLY compare them. Add in the purchase price for Microsoft Office, Microsoft Vista etc. You'd be surprised what you come out with.

  1. koolkid1976

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    re: scary thought....

    "What would be worse than a company that has a monopoly on software? A company that has a monopoly on software AND hardware?"

    Scary indeed. Just that scary iTunes/iPod monopoly.

  1. testudo

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    Re: the rapid pace

    Lets face it, the hardest part of a Mac to replace is going to be the graphics chip. With the iMac and indeed with the mac-mini and ALL laptops regardless of who makes them aren't designed in such a way that the graphics card can be replaced.

    Right, we know that. We hate that. But thanks for letting us know.

    So ... where does that leave us? Well you can still replace the hard drive and upgrade the memory. You may also choose to add some sort of special network card or something in the future.

    Where in the world are you adding some sort of special network card? The macs you mention (sans the MBP) have no expansion capabilities (unless someone somehow breaks Apple's hold on the airport slot).

    And while memory is generally easy to replace (except in the mini), the hard drive isn't. Only the MacBook has an easy to replace drive, the rest of the machines require lots of effort.

    Its pretty clear that if you want a hard core gaming system you're leaning toward Microsoft systems. ...If on the other hand you're not trying to run on the bleeding edge of graphics, the Apple line starts to really look pretty good.

    Um, sure, if you mean by 'not bleeding edge' is playing solitaire and the Sims. Apple's computers are, perhaps, good now. But two years down the line? Then they're ancient and non-upgradeable.

    Ask yourself this question, do you NEED the expandability of extra card slots? Yes, that's why we keep asking for them.

    If the answer is yes, maybe the Mac isn't for you. What? So because someone wants to change a video card, or add a second drive to a machine, then that's reason to switch to a different OS? So, I guess that means OS X isn't capable of handling such tasks then?

    If the answer is no ... take a few minutes to really compare the prices and performance of comparable systems... REALLY compare them. OK, Dell tower with extra drive bays, PCIe slots, 8 USB ports, upgradeable video card: < $1000. What mac should I compare that too?

    Add in the purchase price for Microsoft Office, Microsoft Vista etc. You'd be surprised what you come out with.

    Why add Office? Don't you have to add Office for the mac? Therefore the costs even out (though the Windows version is more feature rich). And Vista comes with the machine. Or didn't you realize that?

    And why the h*** would anyone care what PC Magazine has to say?

  1. nativeNYer

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    10 percent

    If Apple gets to around 10% marketshare I'll be happy. I actually don't want them to get much higher than that. 10% is enough to continue to justify most application developers to continue to make Mac software, games, etc. and at the end of the day, that's all I really care about.

    I actually don't see them going much higher than around 10% for some of the reasons noted here by others. Macs are still a bit proprietary, with Apple controlling almost all aspects. There will still be a huge market for those who want to get a cheap PC or have more options than what Apple offers.

  1. Simon

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    Re: Jonathan-Tanya

    ...and Mac's with upgradeable graphics start at $2499...

    FUD. The Mac Pro starts at $2200. And refurbs are substantially cheaper.

    If that's too much for the slots you want, get a cheap PC. Nothing wrong with that. But please for the love of God, the whining is getting so boring. Obviously Apple doesn't care about the sales they lose due to this fact. The geeks have been whining for long enough after all.

  1. nat

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    i'm

    just sitting here thinking how much time i could save if testudo would stop quoting others and make his point without all the "you're a moron" bs. dear gawd man, is that your sole purpose in life, to take others post and TRY to rip them up? just make your point and leave others and their views out of it. seriously, i have a life to live and reading your never ending holier than thou "aren't you the stupid one" posts is annoying and time consuming.

  1. ttrostel

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    How to respond ... hmmm

    Thank you Nat

    I wasn't quite sure how to respond to testudo but you seem to have done that part well.

    From the standpoint of a computer software programmer / engineer for over 10 years this is what I see.

    The Mac laptops are extremely well made. They don't skimp on the packaging, the components are solid, the technology is both innovative and reasonably close to what should be available in the market today. Of special interest has been the switch to LED lighting which should produce a wider color gamut and a brighter screen using less power. I'd like to see that in more systems.

    The Mac mini provides an interesting entry level system, again with pretty innovative packaging and technologies. It was never designed as a high end graphics system and despite statements made to the contrary is pretty easy to upgrade. The biggest design / manufacturing drawback was the mini connector for the airport card not being seated well from the factory. I believe Apple has tightened up on that and it doesn't present a problem any more.

    The iMac is designed as an all-in-one system. The idea behind it is to pull it out of the box ... put it on the desk ... and in 5 minutes be on your way. The packaging and components are of high quality but not necessarily cutting edge. Again this product isn't designed exclusively as a gaming system and should not be confused with one.

    Lastly the Mac Pro is pretty much a behemoth. It can hold up to 16gb of RAM, two 3.0ghz 8 core CPUs, 3 terabytes of disk space running on four *independent* 3gb/s serial ATA drive bays. This is pretty much a server class hardware platform. It's target market is decidedly NOT the same as the sub 1k super special from Dell.

    Technically it sounds like you want to play the latest 3D graphics game on your home computer and perhaps do some casual word processing once in a while. If thats the case, by all means get the Dell or whatever since the current value proposition is there for you.

    My point is this: Apple makes very good computers and excellent software which are a good buy.

    Lastly, Apple controls both the hardware and software ends of the business which means they can test the deployed combinations much more simply. Under normal circumstances this means that Apple operating systems will be better tuned and more robust because the installed hardware base is smaller.

    Disclaimer: I don't nor have I ever worked for Apple, Microsoft, or Dell. The opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of the folks that I *do* work for ;-)

    Lastly: If you don't agree with me... GOOD! If everyone thought the same I'd think something was horribly wrong with this country. Competition in the market is always healthy!

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