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First iPhone apps surface on Web

updated 12:05 pm EDT, Thu June 14, 2007

Digg interface for iPhone


David Cann has created an alternate interface for Digg that will (theoretically) work well on the iPhone's interface. Matching the iPhone's screen size, the AJAX Web app allows users to scroll through different Digg categories, then click through to links which become embedded in the same sized box. The interface is built with the Yahoo! UI Library, PHP and the Digg API. Meanwhile, Wired Blogs notes another "iPhone app" -- OneTrip, "a quick (though very elegant) grocery list program put together over-night by Neven Mrgan. [...] I think the new Apple strategy of "the web is the new SDK" is actually a wonderful one. They're pretty unlikely to crash, and really powerful development is a possibility. Anyone want to lay money on how long it will be until Google issues a version of Reader optimized for the iPhone?"


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  1. LouZer

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    06/14, 01:16pm | report spam | Reply |

    Wonderful?

    Yeah, because who wants to have any control over their data, when its available, and who can get at it? Or have control over their apps? Or have an app you find to be critical all of a sudden disappear because the company is no more (no problem with a real app, but if the server goes, so goes your abilities to use it)? Or be able to use their iPhone apps when not in range of a wifi signal?

  1. rtbarry

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    06/14, 01:41pm | report spam | Reply |

    so louzer...

    ...you just talked me out of ever using the web again. good job. what have i been thinking all these years, wasting my time on the stupid internets??? it will never work.

    sheesh.

  1. LouZer

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    Re: so louzer

    Well, I wasn't talking about the 'web' in general, just online apps.

    if you want to trust all your data to on-line software and storage, without having any copy of it yourself, feel free. But some people like having access to their data and software when it suits them. And with the iPhone saying "No actual applciations allowed", you're stuck doing anything and everything on-line. Which means that proposal you're working on is inaccessible for the 6 hour cross-country flight you're taking.

    And when you get to the east coast to give your presentation, you find that all your files have been changed and defaced, because the site you worked off of isn't as secure as Steve Jobs made Web 2.0 apps seem.

    And your expense report data, which you've been using's a great app you found at www.louzer.com/expensereportdata.html, is now inaccessible, because louzer has decided that he's making no money on his service and has declared bankruptcy.

  1. QualleyIV

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    06/14, 02:31pm | report spam | Reply |

    re: re: so louzer

    Yeah, you're right, I guess there isn't a way to host anything on your own machines on your own connection to the internet. What HAVE I been thinking all of these years that I've been hosting my own website, email, AFP, etc?

    Just because you refuse to think outside the box doesn't mean that others won't...

  1. rtbarry

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    06/14, 02:37pm | report spam | Reply |

    online apps...

    ...are here to stay and overtaking regular apps for mudane duties, which is what the iPhone is suited to. i'm not gonna do CAD or graphic design on the thing! that's what notebooks and desktops and tablets are for.

    think google.

    this is a small form factor device. a PHONE, that just happens to have some really killer extra functionality.

  1. zl9600

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    06/14, 02:40pm | report spam | Reply |

    go away.

    Louzer, sometimes you speak some sense, but mostly you're out here to be bitter about every last move Apple makes. That's your choice, but I'd like to suggest something:

    Go buy a Blackberry and be happy talking into your pop-tart brick and using Win Mobile. Nobody here is going to mind, i promise.

  1. yticolev

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    06/14, 03:11pm | report spam | Reply |

    No need to be online

    These are apps that are browser based. They will run offline just like your browser will run offline. I have several supposedly online based calculators that work just fine as a saved page without internet access.

  1. Jeronimo2000

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    06/14, 04:26pm | report spam | Reply |

    oh lord.

    "Which means that proposal you're working on is inaccessible for the 6 hour cross-country flight you're taking."

    Sure, because I'm working on a proposal ON MY PHONE. Jeez.

    That's why people have laptops. Heard of them? Really handy things, those.

  1. hayesk

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    Re: oh lord

    As much as I hate to admit it, I agree with louzer.

    - not everyone can set up their own server. Try explaining dynamic IP addresses to the average Mac user and you'll get a blank stare - I don't want my data on a third party's server - As a developer I don't want to support an infrustructure to save users' data - I want my apps to be able to access their data without requiring a network connection. There are cell phone dead spots, no wifi, and quite frankly, they shouldn't have to pay carrier fees to access data that could be saved on their device

    Dashboard widgets that have a protected local storage area on the iPhone would go a long way to help get apps on to the iPhone without being a security risk. For example, Apple could allow widgets that have a single folder within the widget bundle where they can save their data. It's secure and allows persistent storage without requiring a network connection. The phone could even institue quota limits on the folder as well, to alleve worries of an app filling up the storage.

  1. rtbarry

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    06/14, 05:00pm | report spam | Reply |

    how do we know...

    ...that there won't be a sandbox for local webapps to keep their own data? at least eventually after apple feels more secure about the whole thing?

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