Apple applications aren't Vista-ready

right now probably the only people that could care will still be using Windows XP since they won't have upgraded anyway, and I would guess that those that do the Vista upgrade hate Apple anyway and wouldn't be caught dead running one of their apps...

bad ol' microsoft should have pestered and pestered apple to try at least one of the several vista version during beta, or why didn't apple think of it, or if they did, why wait to tell consumers not to buy a competitor product until after it is released to the public....brains anyone?

It's like watching little girls pull each other's hair.

Bonjour works fine. iTunes works fine. When was the last time I had to reset my iPod? 2005.

I do love the pettiness. Apple dragging its feet to make the Vista experience undesirable.

pettiness far too often expodes to huge hate....can't wait for a zealot to finally sell their secret perfect os

..I wonder what Apple have in mind. If they add to the disadvantages of a Vista upgrade (with HW upgrade & OS license costs) they may have a specifically targetted switch-campaign in mind showing the cost-benefit of upgrading to OSX

McD

it's cheaper to upgrade to OSX for a windows user, who must buy an entire computer than upgrade their existing XP computer to Vista....again, where are the brains?

First poster got it. I mentioned Vista to my PC user co-workers and only one of them even kinda new what it was. Few PC user upgrade their OS when compared to the number of PC users, they just buy new PCs and whatever OS runs on it is the one they have until their next computer. Vista, phfffff

Oh, people will tell you its cheaper, because no one buys vista, they'd buy a whole new computer (for like $700-$1000) with vista installed. Meanwhile, you could buy a new Mac (get a mini really cheap, as long as all your other PC hardware will work on it and you don't want/need a monitor/keyboard/mouse/printer/etc), new OS (well, Leopard will be out really soon, but if you get that Mac even one day before its release, no upgrade pricing for you), buy all new apps (hey, who needs apps?

The mac comes with everything you could possibly need. TextEdit to replace Wordpad, and all the iLife apps to do all those other things you need to do with a computer - no one needs crap like Money or a spreadsheet app or anything like that, the Mac is perfect out of the box!). No need to spend money on antivirus and anti-spyware apps (even though you can get good ones for free) or spend the time to secure your computer (even though there's nothing hard about turning on a firewall, installing Firefox, and turn on windows auto-update feature).

And what of those apps that have no mac version? No problem. Just dump them. You don't need them if they don't care about making a mac version. Or just get parallels or install boot camp. Which means you'll need to also spend money on a copy of Windows. Oh, crap, why not just buy the copy of windows and be done with it.

So, there, you've saved yourself like billions of dollars!

Monitor / Keyboard / mouse / printer /etc

Aren't you upgrading? What did you do with the Monitor / keyboard / ... you had? Burn them? As long as you had standard USB connections on your peripherals, you can just hook them up to your new mac.

Software? You can run your windoze software on the mac too, until you upgrade, but no rush, they will run perfectly fine in the meantime. You did keep your copy of windows didn't you? Or did you burn that with your monitor and keyboard?

True, you can set up your windows pc to eventually be somewhat secure, just get some antivirus software, anti spyware software, new browser, set up the OS ... nevermind that each of those applications will slow your system down, and nevermind that if you ever try a different antivirus software you will find out that your computer was infected by a host of viruses and/or spyware that were not detected by the software you picked. It doesn't matter which one you picked, none of them stop all the threats, and if you try to put on multiple ones, you will find they conflict with each other. But it doesn't really matter because you got a cheap (if not necessarily inexpensive) setup.

No wonder even Windows' OWN development chief said he would buy a Mac if he wasn't working for Microsoft.

me thinks this is a deeper problem. anyone seen the list of applications (not just apple's) that aren't working with vista? it's not short. i can't believe that some of these companies haven't been testing like crazy or... did not have access to all necessary info.