Fonts/text: Safari better than Firefox

I agree completely that Safari has superior font rendering as I develop websites. I always show clients my designs in Safari. While Firefox tends to look a bit more like IE (which is horrid with text). Apple has done a good job with text, now if they could tweak the Javascript support I would give it a 10 out of 10.

It's really inexcusable that after all these years Safari still can't run a web-based HTML Editor (ie. TinyMCE). If it weren't for Firefox, Mac users would be locked out of the CMS editing world.

I will admit Safari support in this area is poor. Nonetheless, I run TinyMCE on my Wordpress based blog. I use Safari exclusively. If I recall, Wordpress has disabled Safari support, not the other way around. You have to manually recode Wordpress to recognize Safari for the purposes of TinyMCE.

You mean a browser written to a specific OS/display engine is better than a cross-platform program??? The next thing you know someone's going to be coming out saying OS X programs written to Aqua look better then those running X11!

Too many compromises in cross-platform s/w.

Why is there no mention of Camino? I like Safari and Firefox a lot but the browser I've settled on for nearly everything I do is Camino. I find it faster than Safari with all OSX native goodness. It's too bad the project doesn't get much attention these days.

I like Firefox more then Safari becouse is faster. Did you know that you can significantly speed up Firefox? You can find manual how to easily tweak Firefox over here: http://www.miscproject.com/blog/about/

I really dislike Safari because it's a lot slower than Firefox and doesn't support add-ons, which I can't live without. I also dislike Camino because it also doesn't support add-ons and is a lot less stable.

I find that Firefox is the fastest & most stable browser and I see the spinning cursor much less often in Firefox than in Safari.

Then what is the reason that IE fonts look like crap, or do we really need to answer that?

Mike - Camino does support add-ons (and so does Safari to a degree). They just don't support Firefox add-ons! (Camino supports some).

On the other hand, WebKit (the Safari nightly build) includes a JavaScript debugger and HTML/CSS inspector, plus Safari has better RSS handling, which eliminates 3 of my Firefox add-on. And the visual tabs in OmniWeb and Shiira beat the equivalent FF add-on hands-down.

I'm also intrigued as to where you guys go browsing that you have so many problems with Safari (speed, spinning ball, etc).

IE fonts look like crap because Windows font engine is, generally speaking, inferior. (Ditto Powerpoint vs Keynote typography). Some Windows users would disagree, finding the Macs anti-aliased fonts 'blurry' on crap monitors / small font sizes, but generally speaking it's true. Vista will definitely narrow the gap.

Be interesting to see the differences with Adobe's Apollo (which will bring a branch of Webkit to Windows).