10/19/2006, 11:40am, EDT
Thursday, October 19th
MS chides Apple for passing worm blame
James Abrams, who held Poon's position for more than 10 years at Microsoft agreed with Poon. "The Apple iPod incident was not about Microsoft having a hardy operating system, it was all about security and process," he said. "I released software in an environment surrounded by Windows machines. Many machines on the corporate network were infected. We never introduced a virus into the software in the release or manufacturing processes because we had a professional understanding of what it took to release what we were supposed to."
"That Apple would blame Microsoft demonstrates a lack of understanding of remedial security and manufacturing processes. Virus was only a symptom of the problem. Apple didn't know what they were shipping," Abrams said.
Greg Joswiak, vice president of iPod product marketing at Apple acknowledged that roughly 25 systems were infected by a particular Windows compatibility testing station, according to InfoWorld. Joswiak defended Apple's manufacturing and quality control procedures, and reinforced the company's statement about Windows hardiness.
"It was an exception to our process," he said. "We believe we have a good process and we're going forward," Joswiak added. "We tried to be open and explain what's going on. We're not trying to dismiss our role."
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First off, Apple took the blame. 25 incidents were found and they put it up on thier website notifying everyone.
"...and even more upset with ourselves for not catching it."
Secondly, if the Windows platform was more protected, the worm would not even spread to said platform and it would be a dead issue.
if I hit another car, yes.. it's my fault. I wasnt paying attention. But if the other drivers airbag doesnt go off and they get hurt, then it's the car companys fault for not having the airbag properly installed.
Well, this is exactly the problem that has brought us to where we are today. Well, not me, specifically since my Mac is virus-free, but you know...
Let's keep the blatant copying going in the Mac -> Windows direction, eh Steve?
The fault lies squarely with Microsoft, NOT Apple. MS provides a haven for war against its own platform where even a manufacturing plant test machine is not immune. Sorry, but I can't possibly see how Apple should take any more responsibility than it has done. It's just a clear example of how bad the Windows platform is, and why Apple's sales figures released today are showing exploding growth.
Microsoft should be stepping up and apologizing for the existence of this and every other virus out there.
Sending out uncontaminated products is everybodies business.
What does the fact that its a manufacturing test machine have to do with your argument. Are test machines supposed to be so viral protected that the fact it was infected means the OS sucks? That makes no sense. In this case, its apparently apple's fault for connecting something to the machine that in itself was infected. That shouldn't happen on such a machine.
Hell, I remember many, many years ago that MacAddict (I believe it was them) included a CD with their magazine that had a virus on it. Was this MS's fault? No. Was it Apple's fault? I don't recall anyone blaming them. It was MacAddict's fault for not making sure it wasn't infected before release.
Microsoft should be stepping up and apologizing for the existence of this and every other virus out there.
Um, why should they be apologizing for every virus out there, when not all of them are Windows viruses? There are viruses for all Operating Systems, not just Windows. Well, all but OS X, because we all know OS X is the best damnedest OS out there, resistant to all known and unknown attacks, unable to be penetrated or infiltrated! Even if a virus would be made, we all know it wouldn't be Apple's fault, but the fault of the OSS that they use, or some third-party software, or because someone dared run the system as an administrator instead of a 'normal' user. Or something like that.
And, technically, you can put the blame on the Windows users and developers as much as MS for much of the problems. Because users don't like to be inconvenienced, they want permissions to do everything without being bothered with things like admin passwords and verifications. And Windows developers just love screwing around with the systems, because they've always had that ability. Try to fix a problem, cause some software to no longer work. Users get testy. You can see from the complaints about vista how trying to secure even small parts of the OS cause all to complain (how dare MS try to lock up the kernel, for goodness sakes!).
Mac users, on the other hand, just take whatever Apple throws at them. Windows users would be irritated by having to provide a password just to set up an ipod. Mac users, we just type away, without even wondering "Why do I need to have an admin account to set up my iPod????"