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08/07/2006, 6:00pm, EDT

Monday, August 7th

Microsoft kills VirtualPC, VB for Mac

Microsoft's Mac Business Unit today announced that it will cease development on a Universal version of Virtual PC. Current VirtualPC customers will continue to receive product support, however. "Developing a high-quality virtualization solution, such as Virtual PC, for the Intel-based Mac is similar to creating a version 1.0 release due to how closely the product integrates with Mac hardware," said the Mac BU. "The Mac BU still recognizes that customers continue to need access to Windows applications from their Intel-based Macs, and feels confident that alternative solutions offered by Apple and other vendors, combined with a fully packaged retail copy of Windows, will satisfy this need." The announcement comes as the recently launched Parallels Desktop offers a full virtualization solution for Intel-based Macs, allowing users to run copies Windows or other operating systems from within Tiger. VMWare has promised to offer a full virtualization solution for Macs by this fall.

The Mac BU announced it will be discontinuing support of Visual Basic scripting in the next version of Office for Mac, but said it is working hard to increase support for standard Mac scripting methods such as AppleScript and Automator.

"As always, cross-platform compatibility remains a top priority. As we develop the next version of Office for Mac, the files will continue to be compatible across platforms, including 2007 Microsoft Office system for Windows," the company said.

"Although VB macros within files will not be accessible and cannot be viewed or modified, the files themselves can be edited without affecting or changing the macros."

The Mac BU also said that it is working to ensure that resources are available to help developers make the transition to other scripting technologies.


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we knew this was coming
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08/07, 6:34pm, EDT
the day the bought it.
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Really?
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08/07, 6:37pm, EDT
Colored me surprised....NOT!

I've got Parallels and I've got VPC. Microsoft had so much catching up to do it's not even funny. I realize VPC on a PPC had a lot more work to do, but the last useful version of VPC ran in OS9
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Visual Basic is a problem
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08/07, 6:44pm, EDT
Stopping support of VB, espeically in Excel, will kill cross-compatability for serious users - again, especially in Excel. This may be the beginning of the end for MS Office between Mac and PC. Anyone know what the scripting/macros are like in open office?
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told you
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08/07, 6:53pm, EDT
this leaves ppc mac users out in the cold, no way vista will run on emulation anyway, the beta is a total hog, guess i'm going to have to buy a new mac, too bad i can only afford a mini
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Visual Basic!
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08/07, 6:54pm, EDT
You've got to be kidding me?! Killing VB for the Mac?! This is a complete deal breaker... It'd be one thing if they said they can't ship it in time for Office 2007, but atleast make a statement that you'll support it in the future (maybe with Office 2009 - but I guess thats too far out).

I use Visual Basic scripting extensively on Excel for my job. I'm going to have to look long and hard at using NeoOffice in the future. I sure hope it supports VB...
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VBA
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08/07, 7:23pm, EDT
This is a huge loss to the MS Office product IMO. I write macros to automate Excel, now I'll only be able to test/debug on my work PC. :(
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re:vba
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08/07, 7:42pm, EDT
How about upgrading to macbook or macbookpro?
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Cross-Platform...
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08/07, 8:44pm, EDT
Quote: "As always, cross-platform compatibility remains a top priority. As we develop the next version of Office for Mac, the files will continue to be compatible across platforms, including 2007 Microsoft Office system for Windows," the company said.

Except for one huge part of the program. Then cross-platform compatibility is a second thought.

On a different note: see that VMware is bringing VMworkstation to the Mac. I guessed this about four months ago. Although Parellels has the head start - they should be concerned as VMware is a giant in the virtualization market right now.

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slowly, slowly
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08/07, 8:53pm, EDT
MS is reducing cross platform like a frog in a slowly heating pot of water. This is so calculated, so measured that it is amazing that anyone can trust them. I don't happen to need VBA, but I am waiting for the next few shoes to drop. Supporting VBA, how much extra time would it take to support Mac versions? Hardly any, so this is all political, not technical.
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RE: slowly...
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08/07, 10:24pm, EDT
I also feel that MSFT is slowly pulling the plug on OSX software development. What they stated above can very easily be applied to Office:

"...recognizes that customers continue to need access to Windows applications.... feels confident that alternative solutions ... combined with a fully packaged retail copy of Windows, will satisfy this need."

From the MSFT side, Balmer needs to get his house in order, low profit products may be cut in order to free up resources for higher margin products and ultimately improve the bottomline.

Why develop a completely different version of Office when Intel Mac owners can buy & use a full version of Windows, and a full version of Office - two revenue streams on a new platform without new any new development via the Mac BU.

This may or may not be good news for MAC users in the long run but it may also be signs of a trend that may make sense for development companies with little MAC market penetration or if they are on the fence about continuing a separate & dedicated OSX development effort.

What say ye Adobe?



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