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Warner may offer iTunes music on DVDs

updated 12:00 pm EDT, Fri August 4, 2006

iTunes music on DVDs?


Warner Music is reportedly close to a deal with Apple [subscription required] that would make digital tracks--essentially identical to those the computer company sells through its iTunes Music Store service--on DVD albums, a new format the company hopes will replace the popular CD and spur more retail music sales. The Wall Street Journal reports that Warner is in the final stages of securing technical licenses that will enable it to sell a bundle of music and extra features on a single DVD: the DVD would include a music album that plays in both stereo and surround-sound on a standard DVD player as well as include video footage that plays on a DVD player or a computer. The report says that the DVD album will include song remixes, ring tones, photos and other digital extras that can be accessed on a computer, although it is unclear whether the non-music content will support Macs. The music, however, will likely be provided by Apple, as Apple has been reluctant to license its FairPlay digital rights management (DRM) technology, which helps copy-protect songs sold through iTunes. T

The report says that due to Apple's reluctance, the company will likely create the digital tracks and provide them to Warner so it can add them to its DVDs.

According to the report, the DVD album is "the latest in a parade of would-be successors to the CD, including the surround-sound products Super-Audio CD and DVD-Audio, and most recently DualDisc, which plays like a CD on one side and like a DVD on the other."

Warner, the fourth largest music ompany, was one of two companies, along with Sony BMG, to embrace DualDisc last year; however, the capacity of both the CD and DVD sides of DualDiscs is limited compared to normal CDs and DVDs. The storage capacity of the planned Warner DVDs is up to four times what can be held on the DVD side of a DualDisc. Both Warner and Sony BMG have sharply scaled back their DualDisc output, according to the WSJ.


by MacNN Staff

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  1. bobolicious

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    It's about time...

    ...that dvd capacity became available for audio... more trickle down economics...?

  1. Dakar

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    Hmm...

    Sounds like you won't be able to rip these... so you'll get 128 kbps tracks included... not sure i like the sound of that.

  1. ZinkDifferent

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    They will try...

    ...and like with every other effort, they will lose enormous amounts of money, only to return back to the CD. It's a format that was embraced for its versatility by the consumer.

    All these 'alternatives' are not being investigated out of love of wanting to give the consumer more, but rather out of a desire to give the consumer less. Darwinian economics are in favor of what the consumer likes - reasonaby priced CDs, that play with a minimum of trouble.

    All new solutions will require most consumers to purchase new players, new music, etc... While a new format will eventually replace the CD, that format will simply be the DVD, just filled with music.

  1. MacnnGregor

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    hmmm as well....

    I like the idea so far, though. It gives people a reason to buy albums just like "special features" gives people a reason to buy movie DVD's. This could reignite the art of albums in a way we haven't seen since the early 1980's.

    I just keep wondering why Apple won't license FairPlay!! That is the real way to counter anything Microsoft could come up with. I know they wouldn't give it to a website, but to hard media like CD's or music DVD's it seems that it would only further extend the partnerships with labels and still get money from them while giving customers a lot more choice. Besides if MS makes this arraingment with music DVD's and their DRM, then that sets a whole new and possibly significant area against iTunes.

    Apple needs to continue to be the labels easiest partner and most profitable one as well as give the customers what they want. That is what iTunes/iPod did first and that's what licensing to physical media probably would do in the future.

    That's what they'll have to do with movies anyway!

  1. testudo

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    At what price?

    That's what I'd like to know. Same $15 as a CD, great. $25-$40 because of all the extra content? Not worth it at all.

  1. Pale Rider

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    you get why this matters?

    True, the labels respond, if at all, very slowly to consumer desires, but Apple actually acts like ti cares about consumer desires, and consider this: Warner negotiates with Apple to offer what is essentially an Apple product--iTMS driven content. The worm has turned significantly. This is good for end users. Perhaps it will be a failed experiment, but that's not the important thing here [remember the Pepsi giveaway that fizzled?]

  1. ebow

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    Why is iTunes involved?

    I can't understand why Warner Music needs to go to Apple for music. Why not just tap their own catalog, instead of buying 128 kbps songs for use on a medium they hope will replace CDs??? It doesn't sound like the non-music material will come from iTunes, and the disc is a physical product so it can't be sold through iTunes. I guess I just can't figure out what this article is talking about!

  1. eldarkus

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    Huh??

    why would u assume you'd get 128 kbs tracks? Just cause Apple will provide it doesnt equate 128kbs. I think they do that for the iTMS because of internet speeds. it's a decent balance between quality and a quick transfer.

    "All these 'alternatives' are not being investigated out of love of wanting to give the consumer more, but rather out of a desire to give the consumer less."

    Stereo & SS tracks, rings tones, movies, remixes and extras... and the consumer gets less? huh?? Wanna use some logic with that?

    Since most people have a DVD player, they will be able to play them. (u dont? check Walmart for $30 DVD players) But what about Car CD players? Well, you can burn iTMS tracks to CD, so there's your solution. Others will just buy the CD. Do you really think they will just stop releasing CD's in favor of the new format? Geez.. guess you didnt see how long it took for cassettes to go out of style. what.. 5 years or so?

    I will agree that it will depend on price. Anything above $20 would be a rip off.

  1. ebow

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    Oh

    Turns out you can read the article even without a subscription. Thanks for the bogus warning, MacNN. This is what it has to say about Apple's potential involvement:

    "The DVD album would include "preripped" digital tracks of the entire album, ready to be copied onto a user's computer -- a totally separate set of data from the higher-quality, DVD-audio sound that users hear when they slip the DVD in a player. The lower-quality, "preripped" tracks could be copied to a CD. . . . People familiar with the situation say Warner is close to a deal with Apple Computer Inc. that would make the digital tracks essentially identical to those the computer company sells through its iTunes Music Store service. . ."

    What a lousy summary posted here.

  1. SpaceMonkey

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    Ugh

    Another format out to kill consumer flexibility. The reason I actually DO buy retail music on CDs is because I can rip it. I know many people with similar preferences. If anything, this is going to hurt retail sales, just like the SACD never took off.

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