Make that Andreas, not Andrea :O

Dreamweaver sucks sucks sucks. I have never seen a program so badily designed and the phasing out of GoLive is a slap in the face of the loyal users who put up with this c*** with the original Pagemill!

Adobe s**** you, and you wonder why people hate you.

... sometimes lets companies do bad things for consumers. When there are corporate take overs and buy outs, the "easiest" thing for the new company to do is to eliminate jobs and conflicting products. But why not sell off the redundant products to someone who could make them better and competitive - like sell Freehand to Apple? Because many times the free market is not about competition, it is about winning ( see Microsoft) and that doesn't always work for a better service or for the consumer.

I love the free market, but it isn't good at alot of things.

Too bad. My old company did just fine with Freehand.

freehand has one really cool feature that ilustrator doesn't - paste inside. i hope that makes the cut, messing with masks can be be a real headache sometimes.

I'm fine with this... although I've tried using GoLive and Freehand, they are overshadowed by Illustrator and Dreamweaver in most respects.

Hopefully what we'll see is the best features/innovations from the departing apps integrated into the remaining ones.

I use Dreamweaver constantly and its a powerful tool, but the UI does stink somewhat (still better than the bloated GoLive IMO).

Remember CS3 is still a year off, that means a good 18 months+ of development time, so hopefully the suite will be killer. If CS3 was out this summer I'd be more afraid of everything being half-baked.

I own and use all of the above. I say good riddance.

Having been a professional illustrator, retoucher and production artist for over 25 years, I am sorry to hear that Freehand is going away. It was always a much superior production and illustration tool that Adobe Illustrator.

I wonder if there will be an upgrade offer from GoLive to Dreamweaver.

Illustrator never even came CLOSE to Freehand in the early days. Illus88 = chunkblower. It was apparent when Adobe used that new fancy Bravo engine for Illus that it would become an inferior product to FH. Numbers never lie, and that big test shootout that showed Illus choking on complex paths vs. FH will go down in history. Adobe fanboy's who don't work in vectors all day will just never know the power of FH. Entire prepress houses were built on FH, illus was always a compatibilty tool. Nothing more.

Adobe, you don't suck (thanks for PS). But man, you really suck (thanks for stifling innovation).

We own and use all the Adobe and Macromedia products mentioned; I am also sorry and slightly angry to hear that Freehand is going away too. It is a much superior tool than Adobe Illustrator. The cut to the chase interface was never evident in Illustrator, as it now sits, unopened, as Freehand is the tool of choice at our company. Sad and bad, indeed.

But still very disappointing. Conversion between Freehand and Illustrator is never very good. I hope they put a really good Freehand import tool into Illustrator CS3.

I've heard that they're going to merge the best features of Freehand into Illustrator and rename the product, Frustrator... ;^)

I can't help but wonder if buying a competitor in order to eliminate competition ought not to have some restrictions: for instance, if the competitive product is pulled off the market, perhaps it should lose all copyright and patent protection and revert to public domain open source control. Products not in the market place should not receive protections intended to benefit the people by encouraging innovation. I find it amazing that Adobe was allowed to absorb its only significant competitor without so much as a hick-up from the trade commission.

Rest assured that the best of Go Live will be melted into Dreamweaver. Likewise with Freehand.

I personally would like to see Adobe trash every one of its own and Macromedia's products and rebuild them from scratch for OS X using XCode. Get rid of all the bloat that they have acquired over the years and give us back speed and usability. - Merge Illustrator and FH into one program - Merge Photoshop, Fireworks and ImageReady into one program - Merge Dreamweaver, GoLive and Flash into one program - Bring back ATM Deluxe and add abilities of Fontographer - InDesign I just want to be able to open Quark 5 and 6+ files Oh well, I can dream.

to try using Softpress Freeway Pro. I started out in GoLive and I can't stand Dreamweaver as I am not and would never describe myself as a coder. Now that GoLive is biting the dust, I've been checking out Freeway, and I have to say I'm liking what I've seen so far.

Adobe is the worst of the worst

Even Stanley can handle producing several different 'HAMMERS'.

Why cant Adobe continue producing Freehand "The best Graphic Illustration Software in the World"??

answer - GREED.

Adobe should be forced to SELL FREEHAND OFF to the highest bidder and not KILL IT!!!

Adobe should be brought up on ANTI-TRUST Charges.

Thsi juts ainet rgith

For designers like me who are used to the visual drag and drop interface of 'normal' programs, Dreamweaver is damn near IMPOSSIBLE to work with. I usually end up building the page in ImageReady, export the images and html, and then open the html in Dreamweaver. But that's just the beginning of the nightmare. Trying to get text to appear properly with CSS is confusing as h***. Getting background images to work is a mystery (they'll show up in DW, but when previewing in a browser, it somehow can't find the image). Clicking the 'No Wrap' option helps that, but only sometimes. Other times, it doesn't help at all.

I've been banging my head against a wall for the past 2 weeks trying to work with this program and I'm giving up. My website is very simple. With GoLIve I'd have my site up and running by now. With Dreamweaver, I've got 2 pages done. In 2 weeks. Nice.

I'm a smart guy. Graduated college, have a great job, I consider myself to be very computer-savvy. But this program is driving me insane. I'll go with GoLive 10 times out of 10.

And now Adobe's discontinuing it. A damn shame...