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Vista delay, Leopard could help Apple

updated 09:10 pm EST, Tue March 28, 2006

Leopard could help Apple

Microsoft's Windows Vista delay could help Apple as the company preps its next Mac OS X "Leopard" release. Apple's next generation operating system could be released by Christmas this year, giving Apple yet another edge during the busy holiday season, while Microsoft continues to delay Vista into the year -- amid calls for the ousting of its CEO and possible further delays. Credit Suisse's Robert Semple, which says the delay will hurt the PC industry, revised industry growth downward to 8 percent (from 9 percent). Semple also said that Apple could "steal some of the spotlight" and marketshare from Dell and others. Speaking about Dell's recent acquisition of Alienware, the analyst said that a pre-Vista and holiday launch of Leopard -- which will probably be previewed at WWDC in August -- "would likely translate into further share gains in the consumer PC segment as Apple will be better positioned," according to The Wall Street Journal.




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  1. kw99

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Obviously...

    Someone, please pay ME to state the obvious.

  1. drift

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    a whopping 1 percent

    blablabla delay blablabla advantage blablabla marketshare blablabla Apple blablabla MS blablabla Dell blablabla

  1. speter3

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    leopard by christmas?

    that seems awfully quick to me considering they won't have shown it to developers until august at wwdc. i can't see it being released until macworld in january at the earliest and that still seems like a stretch.

    just my $.02 though...

  1. kw99

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    WWDC is normally

    in June, I believe. It got pushed back to August, presumably so that they could show the Intel-based Power Macs (or "Mac Pro"). So Apple would have shown Leopard to developers two months earlier, if that makes a difference.

    But Leopard will probably be released at MacWorld Expo in January 2007. Apple does not need Leopard to have a good holiday season. It would need to be out there, installed on new Macs, by early November to make a difference and not cause confusion at retailers. Why rush things to hit a "Microsoft-imposed" deadline? Even a January release will probably beat Vista.

  1. Peter Bonte

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Duh

    It will only help sales of Apple when XP runs on Mac's or osX on PC's. For the moment there won't be a big change because of Vista, nobody os waiting for Vista; :P

  1. LouZer

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Re: wwdc

    in June, I believe. It got pushed back to August, presumably so that they could show the Intel-based Power Macs (or "Mac Pro"). So Apple would have shown Leopard to developers two months earlier, if that makes a difference.

    No, it doesn't make a difference. There's a reason you show your OS to the developers early. Its so they can start work on updating their software to use all those great new things they're shoving into the OS. If they don't debut it until August, what's the point? When it gets released, few programs will be updated to take advantage of it (whatever 'it' is going to contain), so those who buy it will just want to get it to get all that cool fluff and see how much apple's screwed up the UI and their software again.

    Oh, and remember that since apple hasn't announced what's going to be in leopard, there's really no backlash if they cut out half the stuff (like MS did, only publicly). So its nice to gloat about OS software being released 'on-time', but who knows if it really is what they set out to do.

    Hey, and do you think they'll include in 10.5 all the fixes for all the great new but half-done software they added in 10.4 (you know, like fixing Spotlight, and adding UI to better handle it, and ACLs, and maybe standardize the UI, and finally threading the finder, fixing Firewire, and....oh, what's the point, Apple just throws in new stuff, so they can say "Look, 150 new features!" to get people to buy it, they don't care if its buggy.)

  1. tgray

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Consumer Education

    It occurred to me after reading this article just how absurd the whole idea is; M$ delaying a product won't turn into sales for Apple any more than Apple going Intel will, and the reason is simple.

    Both sides respectively have their "customer base"--for Microsoft its the Enterprise/Corporation; for Apple its the Creative. Nothing short of a miracle will make one or the other go running in the opposite direction. Which leaves us with the consumer--the average household buyer.

    The "average" consumer may be a brilliant individual, but when it comes to purchasing technology they are grossly misinformed.

    I've had customers walk into a store that won't touch either a PC or a Mac based on a bad experience--usually from several years ago.

    Then there is the cost factor. The Mac may be able to outperform and beige box PC, but now more than ever they need to realize that people price shop, and if Apple cannot grasp this basic concept it stands little chance of swaying the average consumer.

  1. ibugv4

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    louzer's got it!

    Apple just throws half-assed efforts out the door today and passes it off as cool. It sickens me, that 6 years ago you spent $3500 and kept the thing for 4 years, now if it is kept for two refresh updates it's amazing!

  1. itguy05

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Louzer - fitting

    "Hey, and do you think they'll include in 10.5 all the fixes for all the great new but half-done software they added in 10.4 (you know, like fixing Spotlight, and adding UI to better handle it, and ACLs, and maybe standardize the UI, and finally threading the finder, fixing Firewire, and....oh, what's the point, Apple just throws in new stuff, so they can say "Look, 150 new features!" to get people to buy it, they don't care if its buggy.)"

    I had the "pleasure" of working on an iBook with 10.2 the other day and it amazes me how far we've come. The Finder back then was a POS, the interface was horrible with the pinstripes, and the control panel was laid out very poorly.

    It's amazing how far we've come - Tiger just seems to work much better and be much more responsive than the older versions. Guess there really are major changes under the hood.

    Spotlight just works here - finds things I need when I need them.

    Not sure what the FW issues are - FW is working perfectly here for my: Videocam, Hard Drive, and iPod (I have the 4G that still syncs via FW)

  1. makesense

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    thanks drift

    your comment was so bottom line and so applicable to most of the hate mongering, and so true, that I had to register to MacNN to say so

    your comment is a great copy/paste resource

    let's vote for better intelligence, not better BS

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