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03/02/2006, 9:20am, EST

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Developers impressed with Rosetta

Geek Patrol today posted results from its Geekbench Preview 2 for Rosetta application, which it released yesterday. The website tested an iMac Core Duo with a 2GHz processor and 2GB of memory, running Mac OS X 10.4.5 (build 8G1454). The results were dubbed impressive, with performance running under Rosetta coming in at 40-80 percent of measured native performance. Additionally, single-threaded tests running Geekbench under Rosetta is comparable to running Geekbench natively on a Power Mac G5 1.6GHz, according the site. Two benchmarks stood out, revealing that Stdlib Allocate’s performance is "incredibly poor" under Rosetta, while Blowfish’s performance is unbelievably good--leading those involved to believe that a poor standard library implementation under Rosetta is holding back the Stdlib Allocate benchmark, while a bug in the Blowfish benchmark or Rosetta itself is inflating the Blowfish benchmark. "Overall, I don’t think Rosetta performance will be a concern for almost anyone with an Intel-based Mac."


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Assuming apps run...
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03/02, 9:37am, EST
...which my very first legacy app attempt (NeoOffice) didn't... :(
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03/02, 11:10am, EST
Apple did say that Java apps that use native code will not run under Rosetta. The only major apps I know that fit this description are NeoOffice and Matlab. Let us hope that both vendors get a move on soon.

Apparently, the X11 open office does work, so there is hope. What I have not looked up is the version - NeoOffice is using an older drop of OO, so they may have to move their own version forward or do some backporting.

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03/02, 12:01pm, EST
Virtual PC does not run either:

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/default.aspx?pid=macIntelQA

This makes sense (it has processor dependent code), but it's unfortunate. Hopefully solutions like Qemu WINE, or VMWare will soon be available in stable forms with a level of support sufficient for business users.

In the meantime, I try to enjoy the irony that it's easier to run Windows on PowerPC Macs than on Intel Macs :)
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03/02, 12:32pm, EST
Apple did say that Java apps that use native code will not run under Rosetta.

Well, that's great for Apple to say that, but are users supposed to know what language all their apps are written in?
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03/02, 1:03pm, EST
Well, yes. Matlab is NOT a simple to install program, nor is it for "end users." It required admin rights and X11 to run -- so, yes, they know what language their app is written in.

NeoOffice also says in plain language it is a JAVA Program with an OS X executable, all over their site. The average user can easily see this while browsing their site.
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03/02, 4:21pm, EST
Great. Unless you don't browse their site. Or downloaded and installed one of these apps long ago. Are we supposed to be making mental notes of what apps will and won't run?

Well, yes. Matlab is NOT a simple to install program, nor is it for "end users." It required admin rights and X11 to run -- so, yes, they know what language their app is written in.

Well, if not for end users, who the hell is Matlab for? Is there some group taking matlab and updating it for end users?

And who cares if it requires admin rights to install (most mac users are admins, or, if not, most software requires it so users had to log in as an admin to install it).

And if its X11, does that, by itself, mean it won't run? Because I haven't heard that. Because nothing you mentioned about matlab really jumps up and down and says "Hey, its a java app. See!"
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