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Intel-iMac doesn't live up to Apple hype

updated 11:15 pm EST, Mon January 23, 2006

Intel-iMac performance


Apple's iMac Core Duo performance claims are being challenged by a new report claiming that "real-world" performance is only between 10 to 25 percent faster than its IBM PowerPC-based counterpart, far lower than the doubling in throughput widely claimed by Apple. According to Techworld.com, "[Macworld] carried out a series of tasks using two Apple applications, iMovie and iPhoto, discovering that performance boost ranged from worthy to absolutely nothing, depending on the application function tested. For Apple applications that aren’t yet Intel native - running using the Rosetta emulator - the performance is only half what it would be on the PowerPC architecture that preceded the switch to Intel. This is potentially calamitous for the average Mac user because until Apple applications arrive that have been compiled to run on the Intel chips natively, they will be forced to use Rosetta and see performance drop compared to their PowerPC machines."

The Macworld report said that "Intel-based iMacs are fast, but gains don’t match Apple’s claims... Apple’s much-publicized test scores for the new iMac were made with programs designed specifically to generate test results. So they may give some indication of the overall performance potential of these systems. However, such test results often don’t match up to what regular users see in their everyday work—i.e., the speed of real-world applications."


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  1. kw99

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    That's OK

    Whether it is double or "just" 25%, the price tag is exactly the same as the previous iMac G5. I think the whole point of these first two Intel Mac releases is "nothing has changed - it's still a Mac."

    - Ken

  1. bobolicious

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    apples to apples?

    ...so how fast will rosetta apps on a macbookpro 'feel' compared to a powerbook at 1.67ghz running the same apps natively?

    Anyone (apple included?)

  1. Paul Huang

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    someone is buying…or not

    If the number of processing unit is twice as many, it's only natural to have some gain in the 50-75% range.

    Someone lied and people are buying.

  1. hwdor

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    Saw one today...

    ...and it did feel faster than my current system (G4 iMac with 768MB RAM) but it did not blow me away. Although iPhoto only took a few seconds to load, there was only one photo in it! I'm not sure what it would do with the 10,000+ images that my G4 has to wade through...

    What concerns me more though, was a consistent "jerkiness" of the screen. The retailer had set up the desktop to switch every 5 seconds. During the transition of the desktop pics the dock magnification would simply freeze until the new desktop was fully loaded. Granted, changing the desktop that often is a little unusual, but nonetheless it made the whole interface feel....less than smooth.

    I guess time will tell, but it definitely made me think twice about getting one immediately.

  1. Filburt

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    Lazy Reporting

    This article is merely recylcing Macworld's test. How lazy can a reporter get? At least do your own tests. That said, one would have to be a total moron to think that new iMac is literally twice as fast as iMac G5 based on specInt numbers. Even Steve Jobs said during the keynote speech that real world performance will be slower.

  1. RetiredMidn

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    Calm down

    Expect the same kind of transition as we all experienced when Apple moved to PowerPC.

    The situations are not exactly analogous, but the experience of using PowerPC machines actually improved over a period of time before newer PowerPC CPUs exebtually eclipsed them.

    I expect the MacBook Pro I've already ordered to encounter some performance rough spots in its early months, just as my PowerMac 7500 did when I bought it years ago, then speed up as the applications catch up with the architecture. That's a lifespan that most Wintel owners would envy.

  1. Aaron

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    What hype?

    What hype is the headline referring to? Apple has stated that two very specific CPU benchmarks show the Core Duo to be several times faster than the G5 for those tests, not that the overall system is faster, and nobody has yet to take issue with those two specs. Apple has made it obvious that the system as a whole will not reflect the same improvement as the CPU alone. Get over it already, and stop complaining about this "hype" that simply doesn't exist.

    And Paul Huang... nobody "lied". Nobody made a statement they knew to be false. As I said, the SPECint and SPECfp benchmarks have yet to be shown to be untrue, and nobody has shown that anyone at Apple knew any specs were falsified before they spoke about them publicly.

  1. mr100percent

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    what test?

    What kind of test did they do anyway? You can't really "time" iMovie except in exporting, and then it's a quicktime thing.

    Who knows, maybe Apple didn't optimize their Quicktime to work with the Big-Endian accelerators in the Intel chip yet.

  1. rhashem

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    What the heck?

    Who was expecting the system to be 2x as fast just because the CPU was? If an app hits the disk a lot (eg: iPhoto loading pictures), then a CPU 10x as fast won't lead to more than a 20% or so improvement. A lot of Macworld's benchmarks, things like exporting the iPhoto export to files, is heavily disk-dependent, and thus will see very modest gains with a faster CPU. Also, the common assumption that a second core leads to a 50-75% speedup is only true if the benchmark is highly scaleable. SPEC_rate is a perfectly scaleable benchmark, hence the 2x speedup over a single core. Most of MacWorld's benchmarks are not multi-threaded. Eg: the create zip archive test, in which the 2 GHz Core Duo was 14% faster than the 2.1 GHz G5 is entirely single-threaded.

  1. Rincewind

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    Frankly...

    This is not a surprise. If you look at real world applications, then you'll see Altivec start to play (a little or a lot, depending on the system calls used - yes the OS uses Altivec). So suddenly a pure integer (or floating point) benchmark that doesn't use Altivec (or SSE) looks shameful against a real world application that does (and don't kid yourself, SSE is not as good as Altivec).

    The Intel Macs will eventually get much faster than the current generation of PowerPC Macs, if only because they won't be in development much longer. But they will be speed competitive for a good while longer (at least the G5s will be).

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