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1. climacs

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   01/12, 04:29pm close

   three words

   use Little Snitch.
   
   http://www.obdev.at/products/littlesnitch/index.html

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1. trevc

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   01/12, 05:01pm close

   It's web stats

   Not big news, they use their live product for producing stats ... just a lot more efficient than using Web Server Log files.
   
   We do it too, maybe there should be a clamp down. It's just that in these dynamic types of websites, web server logs are more complicated to properly analyze.

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1. heavyboots

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   01/12, 05:02pm close

   Only when it's open

   http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303066
   
   It's still a really lame thing to toss in there. But Apple has a long history of including objectionable things with their upgrades (ie, more sharing limitations).

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1. shawnce

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   01/12, 05:05pm close

   NOT EVERY SONG PLAYED

   Please stop spreading wrong information... in other words be responsible and change the articles title!
   
   The mini store displays information based only on the currently select song in the iTunes window, from the "article" you reference.
   
   "Kirk adds, "after more analysis, this does not send info to Apple when you are playing music, but rather when you click on a song. So if you start playing a song by double-clicking, it will send info to the iTunes Music Store and retrieve suggestions. But if the song is in a playlist, the MiniStore display will not change when the next song begins.""

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1. ATPTourFan

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   01/12, 05:45pm close

   Pretty...

   ...sick of this non-story... RTFM and fix the headlines.
   
   Apple has had a knowledge base article up about the ministore and how to completely disable it (Just hide it! imagine that!) since the download became available.

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1. jtarpley

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   01/12, 05:52pm close

   Much to do about nothing!

   If you sign up with iTMS for "one click", Apple already has your credit card info. My choice in music is hardly a national security issue. Frankly, I like the idea of being matched with music I might enjoy. Hummm.... Isn't that the whole concept of the iTMS? I think your journalistic energies would be better focused elsewhere. "Much to do about nothing."

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1. adrian_milliner

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   01/12, 06:02pm close

   Article title is false

   Please fix it. You're misrepresentation is doing the greater damage here.

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1. heavyboots

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   01/12, 06:17pm close

   bad reporting

   Actually, as commented by others, not only is this bad reporting, but you managed to report it wrong several hours after Macintouch got it right... You should change the article to be correct or just delete the thing.

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1. mattmarshall

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   01/12, 06:25pm close

   you're lying

   seriously, macnn is lying, and it makes me not want to read your site anymore.
   
   why don't you read what you link to?

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1. porieux

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   01/12, 08:14pm close

   agreed

   bad job on this one guys. time to shape up...

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1. - - e r i k - -

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   01/12, 09:39pm close

   Smart or stupid?

   If you are trying to look smart by quoting Shakespeare, make sure that you at least get the quote right. It's "much ado about nothing". "Much to do about nothing" doesn't even make sense.

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1. LouZer

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   01/12, 10:57pm close

   non-story? Sure....

   Yeah, if MS did this with media player, you'd be all over them. But its apple, so its a non-story. Except, of course, they don't spell it out anywhere (except in some knowledge base article NO ONE reads). Don't you think it would be nice if (a) apple actually said, up-front, that they send the info, (b) turned the feature OFF by default, so you have to turn it on (you know, and opt-in kind of thing), (c) didn't send your user ID information to the server (for why is this sent if its discarded and not needed???), and (d) actually have something written specifically that says they don't keep the info.
   
   But, right, its Apple. They can't do anything wrong....

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1. davidahn

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   01/13, 01:06am close

   Apple or Microsoft?

   Is this Apple or Microsoft? What happened to fighting Big Brother as Apple's 1984 Superbowl commercial suggested? I'm a loyal Apple user since 1984, but I gotta call it as I see it. I was shocked when I saw this on my Mac.
   
   Maybe you should stop reading ALL Mac news sites and just hang out on apple.com. That way you won't have to be offended by any of this unbiased information.
   
   David

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1. aristotles

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   01/13, 01:21am close

   It is a feature.

   If you don't like it, turn it off. Gracenote sends info back to their servers when you insert a CD Oh no! Run for the hills!
   
   It is turned on so that noobs will know it exists and some people may actually like the feature.

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1. tomodachi

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   01/13, 01:39am close

   Holy c***

   This article has been up for, what, 10 hours and MacNN still hasn't fixed it? WTF with this website. It's never been fantastic, but it seems like it's hitting new lows.
   
   And re: people disturbed...
   
   Ahh, hello, you click on a song, Mini store opens, they give you suggestions on related artists/works.
   
   
   
   And you think they could do this without sending info back regarding the song you clicked HOW??
   
   
   
   >> if MS did this with media player
   
   You see, if it were MS, they'd collect the data and use them as they please without (a) letting the end-user know they do that, period (not even in their knowledge base), and (b) not giving even a clue about it (as this feature does, rather blatantly in my opinion), and finally (c) not providing the user with any benefits for doing that (like displaying relevant information that you might be interested in).
   
   Should they have turned the feature off by default? Perhaps yes, but then again, if that were the case, so many people will never know it's been added, especially with Apple's tradition of not making features explicit. More people probably benefitted from the feature being turned on by default than those who were pissed off.

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1. hayesk

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   01/13, 10:43am close

   Re: non-store? sure

   louzer, who cares about MS - this is a Mac site. Argue the point itself not some hypothetical "if MS did this" garbage. If you can't make your point with that, then you really don't have a point.
   
   When a window shows you recommended songs based on the one your playing, how the heck do you think they know? Of course the song you played was sent. Nobody should be shocked about this. Why should they turn it off by default? It's a new feature. Nobody's going to find it if you don't show it to them.
   
   Geez, hide the mini-store if you don't like it. Move on.

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1. testudo

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   01/13, 11:04am close

   Re: non story

   I like everyone who says "Hide the store" when it takes apple to produce a knowledge base article just to tell people how to do this. It isn't obvious.
   
   Second, I also like how people don't seem to think its a big deal, or just believe Apple when it says its throwing out the user data. Nice, but how about something in WRITING!
   
   Third, no one seems to care that they're not just sending song info (who cares about that), but also your user ID, which means that they can store a large list of music you own. Hey, then the RIAA sues apple to get this info so they can track down people who are illegally downloading music.
   
   And this may be a mac site, but the point is clear. If MS had done this, mac users would be up in arms about how unsecure MS is, and how they're stealing your data and all that. But its apple, so all the mac-heads are "I trust Apple! They wouldn't lie to me or steal from me! Just like when they used to sell AppleCare to florida residents, only to then tell them it wasn't valid. Or the two times they told me my iBook's motherboard was fixed. Or that I'd get a 500Mhz G4 when they announced them. Or a 3GHz computer. Or that my older G3 was going to be OS X compatible. They certainly wouldn't give out misinformation!"

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1. tomodachi

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   01/13, 07:59pm close

   uhh

   And you, testudo, don't seem to care that Macnn is misinforming its readers when it says iTunes reports every song played and hasn't fixed their title in over a day.
   
   If Macnn were to feed readers with positive misinformation, you'd be all over it, and you know it.
   
   >>I like everyone who says "Hide the store" when it takes apple to produce a knowledge base article just to tell people how to do this. It isn't obvious.
   
   That is SO FUNNY, testudo. Apple has a knowledge base article just to tell people where they can buy Tiger.
   
   http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301242
   
   Yeah, you're right. Some people are quite moronic, or, lets just say, computer illiterate. Now, how'd you think such computer illiterate people would EVER find out about what MANY would consider as a useful feature, if Apple turned it off by default? The answer is, they won't.