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01/10/2006, 4:45pm, EST

Tuesday, January 10th

Garmin promises Mac support for GPS

Garmin today announced that it will immediately begin to make its line of GPS and mobile electronics devices compatible with Mac OS X 10.4. Garmin intends to have all its popular hardware and software applications Mac OS X compatible by the end of 2006. Beginning in spring 2006, Garmin will offer a Mac version of its Training Center software, used with Garmin's line of Forerunner and Edge series fitness products, which lets users plan and analyze workouts. Users can create their own workouts or use workout templates that can be downloaded into the unit. The software also offers interactive analysis tools that will now allow Mac users to chart their performance information like speed, heart rate, cadence, elevation, and pace.

Also in spring 2006, Garmin will make the MotionBased upload interface Mac-compatible. MotionBased translates GPS data into performance analysis, online mapping, and route sharing. Data collected by a Garmin GPS device is uploaded to MotionBased.com where time, distance, speed, elevation, cadence, grade, and heart rate analysis is displayed through charts, illustrations, and reports. The activity data can also be displayed as a route and replayed on street, photo, topographic, and elevation maps as well as Google Earth service. Users can also use the TrailNetwork database to seek out and download new activites in their region, to find popular routes while traveling, or to engage in "virtual races" with oter MotionBased users (pricing was unavailable).


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GPSMap 195
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01/10, 5:22pm, EST
Can I update my GPSMap 195 from a mac? When will they support their aviation products on the mac platform?
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fantastic news!
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01/10, 9:03pm, EST
this is utterly fantastic news, both for garmin and for apple. there are loads of us trigeeks who have been griping about this. perhaps this should be embarrasing to admit, but i had even considered getting a super low-end pc so that i could get at my GPS/workout data. (yeah, i know.) i'm muuuuch happier knowing that i'll be able to stay on my platform of choice.

way to go garmin!
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great news
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01/11, 11:46am, EST
i have also considered getting a pc, for just the purpose of using Garmin Topo.
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01/16, 8:14pm, EST
I've been using MacGPS for years. Check it out. It solves the problem and supports open-source topo maps.
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Major Problems
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10/05, 2:38pm, EDT
Garmin announced "support for Macintosh" in January of 2006. To date (October 5, 2006) they have yet to provide ANY compatibility with Macintosh... having a website where you upload data is hardly "support". Beyond that however, there are major problems with the Garmin Forerunner 305. Below is my experience, but I highly recommend searching the Internet for yourself to find out just how many problems they've had. More at issue though is their POOR support for folks who experience problems. They'll send you a new unit, but it will work about as good as the last one you had. GlobalSat is coming out with some new products that will compete - give it a little time and avoid Garmin like the plague. ------- My experience with Garmin:

I purchased a Garmin Forerunner 305 in August of 2006, and while I really liked the idea of having the GPS and HRM and tracking data, my experience with Garmin and this particular product has not been good. Major problems. When I first got it, I followed the instructions, got it plugged in and went out for my first run with it. When I got home and plugged it in to my computer USB bus, the computer froze and required a reset to reboot. Once the computer came up again, the USB bus didn't work. I realized that the likely problem was too much current draw on the USB bus, and was going to need to get a new motherboard :( Darned disappointing, but being a computer and electronics person, I went and purchased the new motherboard and a powered external USB hub and about 12 hours later I was up and running again. So, this time I plugged the Garmin Forerunner 305 into the powered USB hub instead of the computer. As soon as I did this, my computer blue screened (crashed) and it did so nearly every time I plugged the Garmin in. At this point I decided it must have been a problem with the Garmin Forerunner and got on their support system. Here is where the real problems happened. Their support person told me: 1. Check for chipset names that are INTEL, NEC, etc. These are compatible chipsets with our devices. 2. If you have a chipset name that contains SiS, Via, OpenHCD, Ali, or Alr, these chipsets are not compatible with our devices and may not allow the USB Card Programmer to function. That wasn't on the package, or in the instructions, but regardless I learned that I had a compatible chipset from the manufacturer. So after letting them know that and that I now expected some compensation for my loss and that something definitely caused my motherboard's USB bus to go bad they asked that I send the unit, cable, charger, etc back to them so they could determine what might have caused the problem, which I did. After a week or so I asked if anything had been determined about what had happened but they didn't have any answers. I told them at this point that I expected some compensation for my damaged motherboard - another unit maybe? Something. They offered to send me a new unit and a cadence unit (for my b
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the rest of the story
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10/05, 2:40pm, EDT
They offered to send me a new unit and a cadence unit (for my bike) but I indicated that I already purchased the $60.00 cadence unit and that it didn't work on my bicycle due to the frame/pedal design and that a new unit would help since I really wanted to start using the new toy I bought. After getting the replacement unit which didn't cause any blue screens (after a couple weeks) and seems to be functioning as well as the rest of the ones I've read about (not good - search for yourself), Garmin refused to compensate me in any way for my motherboard - I offered to accept the unit that I sent in back as payment - Garmin's response: "Unfortunately, it appears as if we are unable to determine why the failure occurred given the information you provided. Thus we question whether the Forerunner 305 had anything to do with the failure on your PC. The device you provided does meet all specification standards. I apologize we could not provide a more conclusive answer. I will no longer respond to questions regarding the previous unit.". At this point I let Garmin's technical support know that I was going to file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and make darn sure others who might be interested in purchasing something from them knew about their "policy" for dealing with problems. And unfortunately, I had already sent the bad Forerunner 305 back to Garmin along with the crash dump files from my PC so I was no longer able to determine if a component had failed in the charging circuit of the Garmin and was out of luck. I had offered to send them the motherboard several times as well - they were never interested in what brand/make/model of motherboard I had - something that ultimately makes a difference in this equation. They had zero interest in it. UPDATE: 2 October 2006 - After I filed the complaint with the Better Business Bureau, I was emailed by Garmin's senior staff attorney telling me he wanted me to contact him regarding this issue. I sent him the "final response" from Garmin's technical support that basically told me to shove off, to which he responded that they wanted to offer me another 305 as payment for my troubles. After all this crap - to me this was unbelieveable arrogance and stupidity. I requested they pay me for my motherboard and my time since I was now VERY DISAPPOINTED about how I had been dealt with, and basically the attorney told me in about 3 paragraphs that I needed to read their warranty which clearly states ... "blah blah blah" we aren't responsible for your problems. If there wasn't a problem with their products why on earth would they have their Senior attorney contact me and try to get me to accept a payoff? If they truly were a good company they would have wanted to know what caused the problem, or at a minimum made some effort to understand what happened and tell me. There was none of that. And that has been my experience with Garmin. There are a lot of problems with Garmin's products, un
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10/12, 5:51pm, EDT
Hi, I would like to announce a solution for all people doing long distance sports, something to plan and journalize your workouts. If you are looking for something to plan and journalize your workouts on a Mac, take a look at TrailRunner:

TrailRunner is a route planning application for people who enjoy running, biking, hiking or skiing, works with the Nike + Apple Sport Kit.

With TrailRunner you can plan workout routes on a geographical map, export the route directions onto any GPS Device like the Garmin ForeRunner and Garmin Edge and import the collected exercise data back into the workout diary. Other features are an exercise plan, .Mac weblog publishing, a GPS, GPX and KML Import/Export and an integrated map and elevation data download from global mapping services like USGS topo maps.

With this feature set TrailRunner is the perfect companion for runners, bikers, hikers and all people wandering under the sky.

You can find more information about TrailRunner on my website: http://www.trailrunnerx.com.
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