digital music/video

09/28/2005, 2:55pm, EDT

Wednesday, September 28th

Warner says cutting off iTunes maybe necessary

Warner's digital strategy chief says that labels might have no other choice than to cut off Apple's digital music sales, leaving the iTunes Music Store without many of its popular tracks. "What if Jobs says 39 cents or 29 cents per download - what then? The industry can say, OK we'll cut him off - very few people people buy music from digital downloads," said Nash, according to the report from The Register. Digital downloads form a fraction of the music market, and Apple only makes four cents from every 99 cent download, but the company has been using the iTunes Music Store to supplement its wildly popular iPod music player. Earlier this month, Jobs called the music labels "greedy" based on their desire to raise prices on some music and said the move would be detrimental to the industry by pushing consumers back piracy. [corrected]


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09/28, 3:32pm, EDT
There is always CD rental. Uh um...CD stores with liberal return policy.

Copyright on music is always going to be like the speed law--most people look at it like a recommendation; you are not guilty until you are caught.
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Life Is All Negotiation
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09/28, 3:51pm, EDT
You negotiate with your wife, you negotaite with your boss, you negotiate when you buy a car, Warner says this, Apple says that, it's just part of negotiating.
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09/28, 3:58pm, EDT
I really doubt they would cut them off just because "very few people people buy music from digital downloads...". Its a source of revenue for the labels, one that is popular. If they labels cut off iTunes it would look bad for the labels, not Apple. "Gee, we cut them off because we wanted to raise prices and Apple did not want to play."

And if legal downloads are such a small part of of the industry then why are the labels so concerned with piracy? I though legal downloads made up a rather large part of all digital music downloads.

If so then saying that legal downloads are such a small part I dont see why they would be concerned with piracy then... bigots.
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09/28, 4:00pm, EDT
UGH! I hate these record execs. The are trying to sue everyone under the sun for illegal downloads now that iTunes had made it hip and cool to do legal downloads the want to either cut it off or raise the price. Both of which WILL bring many people back to pirating music. Why are these Music Execs so foolish and shortsighted? It drives me nuts.

That's like saying we've been charging you 99 cents for this product for a while now and because for no other apparent reason except that they want more money we are going to make some crazy prcing scheme and try to milk our customers for more money. I wish I could get a pay raise the same way the record companies do.
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Because
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09/28, 4:07pm, EDT
They want more money, plain and simple.

However, all the iPods sold will only drive users to find alternative ways to fill those huge storage capacities.

I can definitely see a boost in the subscription-based services as tech-savvy folks say 'fine, screw it then. i'll subscribe to those services and find ways to make sure that i can KEEP the music i have downloaded'... idiots!
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09/28, 4:10pm, EDT
...must really hurt considering how far up there they put their own heads. "We don't want another MTV"? Who else contributed as much to increased pop-crap-music sales over the past 20 years than MTV? Why not just say what they really mean...

"We want total control over price, distribution, profit, artists, consumers, communication, and hey, innovation-of-an-kind? Could you please bend over so we can stick it to you too?"

I hope they're running Windoze so some PO'd elementary schooler with 100,000 pirated songs can someday write a virus that will F's their $3/song rent-an-artist model as badly as their F-ing with creative license and modern copyright precedent.
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back to using limewire
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09/28, 4:12pm, EDT
those guys just don't get it. In the end I just feel bad for the artists (well at least those people who are artists and not just some produces crap). If Warner doesn't want my money then that is their right, but don't blame me when I stop buying your CDs. There is a lot of other music out there.
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09/28, 4:14pm, EDT
i think that the argument "if they raise the prices on the itunes store, people will go back to pirating" is a flawed one because i'm fairly sure the large portion of people that download from itunes, were the ones purchasing albums before it existed. if itunes went under, they would probably be quicker to go back to the music stores than to kazaa. especially with how awful these pirating networks have become.
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re: pirating
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09/28, 4:22pm, EDT
Actually, I know quite a few people who've mostly gotten away from P2P downloads and use iTMS since it's come out instead. Their main reasons: (1) honesty, ethics, etc. and (2) easier to find what you're looking for and know it's the right track at good quality.

Not a scientific survey, of course, but from my experience I'd say, yeah, there's a lot of people who are going to P2P no matter what as long as it's available, but I think there are a significant number of folks who WANT to do the right thing, if it's made available in an simple and affordable way. iTMS mostly does that.
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09/28, 4:45pm, EDT
Name me 5 songs that people would want to pay more than 99 cents for...
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