"Because iTunes has specific references to the nano, perhaps it didn't get extensive internal system testing, just to keep it under wraps."

All it would reveal is a name, no specs. And Apple doesn't seem too worried about iTunes giving hint of future product like the cell phone, and video download.

They shoulda spent less time killing the interface.

F*** Windows! hahahaaaa! stay there with your PC little world! if you want itunes or the greatness of any Apple cool apps go and BUY a Mac! put that PC on the trash and say hello to reality. Apple's reality!! yeah! send all the bugs you want man! PC owners need that kind of sign to know what to do! LOL hahahaha!!!!

...* suddenly the MacNN member woke up and never knew what really happen the day he decide to post a comment on a MacNN Forum about a Windows version of iTunes and a lots of Bugs inside of it... poor little guy... he'll never find out what really happend.... never....

On several occasions since I installed iTunes 5 on my WinXP machine I've found that it doesn't really quit every time. It _seems_ to quit, but sometimes it'll quit and then nothing I do will reopen it except a restart... and when I restart, Windows says that iTunes won't quit and do I want to force quit it. On several other occasions I've shut down Windows and get the iTunes had to be force quit message.

iTunes 4.9 didn't do that. I have WinXP Home on one partition and WinXP Pro on another; iT5 is on the XP Home partition, iT4.9 is still on the XP Pro partition. iT4.9 still works fine on the XP Pro partition and is not, repeat, is not going to be upgraded any time soon.

iT5 does seem to work okay on my Mac.

with iTunes 5 on my Windows XP box.

I suspect those exotic errors involving Windows XP and iTunes from new users with fewer than two posts on Apple's messageboards are Microsoft employees using their employer's common strategy of sabotage and FUD.

Installing software on computers is no mystery. The installers are built using standard tools (Mindvision VISE, InstallShield, etc) which, having been used to install literally billions of files on hundreds of millions of computers, are certainly not buggy enough to generate random errors, which is exactly what those a55holes posting on the apple discussion boards are describing.

LOOK! MY XBOX 360 CAUGHT FIRE!

I've tried almost everything, and can't get iTunes 5 to work. It displays the licence agreement, and as soon as I click "Agree" it dies. I uninstalled everything and reinstalled 4.9. This is on my work PC, a Dell D800 laptop running the latest version of XP. Of course it works great on my 3 Macs at home. If I was a windows-based iTunes music store customer I'd probably be more than a little ticked off. I hope Apple finds out what the problem is and fixes it soon, but this shows they really need to do a restricted release of their windows products before they release them to the wild. There's no way they'll ever have the in-house resources to properly QA every possible configuration.

I remember when I tried installing iTunes 4.7 or 4.8 on my parents' Dell, the installation crapped out halfway through and hung the computer. I think the installation is pretty complicated, since Windows is missing all the system frameworks OS X has.

However, I blamed Windows for the problem, since their installation was giving the usual weird error messages and experiencing all the glitches any year-old Windows installation has.

the link I posted?

Damned DLL files... Windows sucks.

According to another site Apple has said they recognize the issue and is working on an update to be released sometime soon.

What site? How about a link...

koolkid1976 and horsepoo are incorrect - secrecy is not why these products fail when they hit the big, wide world.

Let's take the Intel transition as an example. At WWDC, I got to talk to some of the people working on it. Claiming that they were 'an underground team secretly compiling OSX for X86 for the last five years' is deceptive. While it is true that the team has been working on it for the last five years, and that they did not talk about what they did, the bugs they found in the rest of the OS were put in the standard bug database, and were addressed along with all the others. Sure, the team did not blab, but they were a part of the company. Anyone who browsed the bug database had a pretty good idea of what they were working on, but not where they were in it, nor how likely it was to work.

I suspect that we will see x86 laptops long around March, just because that kind of fits with Intel's ship schedule, and they do not want to ship too far behind Intel providing the product. That gives up some of Intel's marketing muscle. Thus, they will have had developer transition kits in developer hands, plus they will have been bringing developers up to Cupertino to test software, for perhaps nine months before the products ship.

So, claiming that the secrecy behind the product is why it has bugs is silly. They had betas in the hands of critical people, and the only way to get it in the hands of more is to release it.

Scott

In the world of Windows there is just a huge number of variables that need to be considered. In many cases simply having the SP2 installed can cause havoc on installers. Also, in many cases the antivirus software will cause problems. Different hardware drivers installed can also be a nusance. Unfortunately, to make iTunes as easy to use on Windows as on the Mac they have to install components close to the OS. Other software might have no problem on this because they usually throw a couple DLLs in the system folder and that is it. Leads to easy installs and few driver malfunctions, but what you get is a piece of software that doesn't work all that well. Apple has taken on the challenge to make something easy to use on a PC, and has to fight with all the inherent problems in Windows.

the only site I've seen saying anything about iTunes updates is MacFixit. They seem to be talking about updates for iTunes for Mac rather than for iTunes for Windows. They seem to expect an update later this week or early next week. They quote 'sources', no further info given.

The reason installation is complicated is because Windows has more system frameworks than OS/X, not less! Hence need for third party uninstall tools and not being able to drag a whole App to the trash.

Whatever the merits or not of Windows though, a lack of testing sucks. Most iPod customers are still Windows users and iTunes is an Apple product. Who would you blame? Especially when the previous version worked fine.

...but it is par for course on Windows where everything is harder by comparison to the Mac.

FIXED:

http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?14@844.IovOa7rGTdv.0@.68b90c60

I've recently switched to a Windows machine as my primary platform (it's a long story and I know, it's scary), but haven't had any real problems with iTunes 5 at all. The interface is still weird, though.

For those claiming a Microsoft conspiracy... GET REAL!

Although I didn't have any problems running iTunes 5 for Windows in the two hours I played with it last night, it did take three attempts to install...