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08/17/2005, 8:20am, EDT

Wednesday, August 17th

Apple, Sony, others named in DRM patent lawsuit

Five of the top companies in the online music industry--including Apple and Sony--are being sued because their music stores and DRM technology violate a seven-year old music DRM technology patent, according to AppleInsider. Earlier this month Ho Keung Tse of Hong Kong filed a lawsuit in US Federal Court alleging that the DRM technology used by Apple, Sony, Real Networks, Napster and MusicMatch infringes on his U.S. Patent No. 6,665,797, which describes a method for "Protection of Software Against Unauthorized Use". Update: The lawsuit follows virtually identical allegations made earlier this year by Hong Kong Pat-rights, which claimed that Apple's iTunes/iPod system violates the same DRM patent. As a royalty, the company was seeking 12-percent of Apple's profits on the revenues generated from iTunes and iPod sales, and had given Apple until the end of March to respond.

The DRM technique relies heavily on a "psychological barrier" to discourage users from sharing music by embedding personal information into each music file the user purchases. Demanding a trial by jury, Tse is seeking both actual and statutory damages resulting from the infringement, following unsuccessful negotiations with each company--including Apple--for royalties payments.


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yet another shyster
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08/17, 9:16am, EDT
waiting 7 years before filing a claim?
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now that's a hoot -
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08/17, 10:19am, EDT
... a patent violation lawsuit FROM Hong Kong.

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Einstein...
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08/17, 10:35am, EDT
... is obviously not working in the patent office any more.
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Get rich quick claim
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08/17, 10:38am, EDT
7 years seems a little to long to start filing claims against companies. There should be some time limit to stop this kind of nonsense. Anyone who actually made there own product should be able to relize it was copied within 6 months. This is clearly a get rich in court scam and will not be easy for them to win fortunately. Let see Volkswagan has been in business since at least 1950. So now I'm going to sue them for copying my beetle design. Yea right.
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Where's his product?
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08/17, 10:58am, EDT
The US patent system is based on first to invent not first to file if I recall correctly. So where's this guys DRM based product?

He also has prior art issues. I had computer games 15 years ago that had a kind of DRM. You could only install them on a few computers without first removing them from another. This always caused problems when hard drives crashed. That was a system to protect software from unauthorized use. But is a music file a piece of software. Any computer science textbook would refer to it as a piece of data as it doesn't actually contain a program, an algorithm. The DRM doesn't stop iTunes (the software) from unauthorized use, it stop's the music (the data) from unauthorized use. How exactly does this guys patent apply to digital music again?

I think this guy would find it easier to push an elephant up Mt Everest. He has far too many holes in his arguments to be going up against the legal departments of Song, Apple, etc.
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Song????
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08/17, 10:59am, EDT
I meant the legal departments of SonY, Apple, etc.

I need more sleep!
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umm
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08/17, 1:04pm, EDT
But don't all the other stores besides apple use windows crappola files? So wouldn't you sue them, not sony? Plus windows media is completely different than apple's format. So is this guy claiming that he invented the very concept of DRM for music files.
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This is totally stupid.
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08/17, 1:07pm, EDT
When software was shipped on floppies this was pretty comon. The first time you installed it from the copy-protected floppies it would brand them with your name so you didn't pass it around.

We're talking '80s, here, folks.
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*shakes fist*
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08/17, 2:15pm, EDT
Those slanty-eyed bastards!!

(lol...I'm Asian so I'm free to say this =P )
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yeah, right
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08/17, 2:53pm, EDT
He won't win.
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