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08/08/2005, 2:00pm, EDT

Monday, August 8th

Market dubbed "Wrong" on Apple

An article today released by Morningstar Growthinvestor analyzes Apple Computer, concluding that it has a "fair value estimate" of $29 per share. The value, which signficantly contrasts from Apple's current $42 per share price, is the result of Morningstar's analysis, which assumes 25 percent annual revenue growth over the next five years for Apple; significant iPod growth this year and next; and sales declining thereafter due to lower prices and increased competition: "In our view, iPod revenues will eventually decline as alternative music players emerge and the early-adoption phase comes to an end. At the same time, we think the iPod will drive increased adoption of Apple computers, resulting in the firm's PC market share (1.8% in 2004) expanding to more than 3% in a few years."


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alternative players?
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08/08, 3:06pm, EDT
aren't there already tons of alternative players, even before the iPod was introduced (what was it, 4 years ago)?!?

which brings me to my next point, now that the iPod is late in its 4th generation shouldn't that whole "early adopter" phase be ending just about now?
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doomed. again.
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08/08, 3:11pm, EDT
And once again a group of 'analysts' has said that Apple is doomed. You'd think that after all this time they'd learn...
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Early Adopter....
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08/08, 3:11pm, EDT
I thought the early adopters were the people who, like myself, bought iPod units shortly after they were introduced at least four years ago now.

I would say that with each iteration they add something so each generation seems sufficiently "new" to those who may not have bought one before and attractive to those who bought a previous generation unit.

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Didn't you know?
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08/08, 3:18pm, EDT


Next, they'll tell you the Earth is flat. No really! Everyone's wrong!!!

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Let's be fair...
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08/08, 3:20pm, EDT
...what percentage of the Walkman market does Sony control? ...did they say Apple would go out of business, or just that the stock is overvalued? ...how long can Apple really stand a concentrated Microsoft onslaught and companies selling at a loss to steal share to Windows sound formats?

Though I did think their target for Mac market share was a tad low.
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re alternative players
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08/08, 3:21pm, EDT
It's entirely a figment of your (and my) imagination that there are any alternative MP3 players. Or that some alternative players can use Windows Media, the format supported by the OS which has 95%+ of the computer market, while iPods can't.

And it's even more a figment of your (and my) imagination that the iPod is years and years and years old and the early adopter phase is long gone.

But then we're not market analysts. No-one cares about figments of our imaginations.
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going short
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08/08, 3:23pm, EDT
methinks someone there wants to short AAPL.
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or
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08/08, 3:23pm, EDT
HAS shorted AAPL and is trying to drive the price down.
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Re: Early Adopter
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08/08, 3:24pm, EDT
The first iPod was released in Oct. 2001. Didn't you know? You guys weren't early adopters, you were beta testers! :p
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re: Let's be fair...
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08/08, 3:29pm, EDT
"...what percentage of the Walkman market does Sony control?" Dunno. But they sure didn't have an iTunes equivalent to tie people to the walkman. Nor did they have a technology like the iPod scroll wheel that could not be duplicated.

"how long can Apple really stand a concentrated Microsoft onslaught and companies selling at a loss to steal share to Windows sound formats?" A long time. This is probably the biggest challenge they've ever had to deal with. They have no leverage to threaten record labels and they are not used to winning by innovation.
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