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Apple criticized for RSS implementation in iTunes 4.9

updated 12:25 pm EDT, Mon July 4, 2005

 

iTunes RSS extensions


Apple is , which were released as part of iTunes 4.9 to support the new podcasting features. According to Tom's Hardware Guide, "leaders in the RSS community, including the standard's own creator, are taking Apple to task for developing an ill-advised DTD without seeking input and guidance from the community." Internet guru Dave Winer, has "chastised Apple for explicitly using the name of its technology, "itunes," within the DTD namespace. With this and other measures that appear, at least on the surface, to be part of an unsupported effort to make the iTunes DTD proprietary, and a podcast's inclusion in the iTunes catalog exclusive to Apple."


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  1. Rainy Day

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    07/04, 12:46pm | report spam | Reply |

    As the Apple Turns

    Don't you just love a good soap opera?

  1. LordJohnWhorfin

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    07/04, 12:54pm | report spam | Reply |

    For crying out loud

    Is the aptly-named Winer, that losing, self-aggrandizing, obnoxious, bloated bag of hot wind ever, EVER going to STFU?

  1. Sebastien

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    07/04, 01:30pm | report spam | Reply |

    You mean

    the mac zealots?

  1. testudo

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    07/04, 01:47pm | report spam | Reply |

    Its a freakin' XML file

    Guess what dudes, you can make several feeds, one for iTunes, one for MS, one for some other app. That's the whole point of XML and DTDs, to allow people to have their own formats and be able to transform between them.

    Of course, Winer is still pissed off that Apple dared create AppleScript that went up against his own scripting language, so its hard to tell where he's coming from at any point in the world.

  1. legacyb4

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    07/04, 01:51pm | report spam | Reply |

    Longhorn

    So what will he say when Longhorn ships with RSS support built into the OS...?

  1. marianco

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    07/04, 03:58pm | report spam | Reply |

    SOUR GRAPES!

    The iTunes tags insure that the PodCast will play on the iPod. I would not want MS or Real content on PodCasts since they won't play on the iPod. They can have their own media designation. Content providers can support all three - they have to since MS and Real content are themselves proprietary.

    Yes, the whole point of XML is to come up with your own tags, which can be used by others.

    Stop whining, Winer! Apple took what was available and created a great way to integrate PodCasts with iTunes and iPods. If you want SoundCasts or some other form for distributed audio content, then use your own XML tags. That is fine.

  1. Wheat

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    07/04, 04:03pm | report spam | Reply |

    better criticizisms

    Ed Dumbill's blog has a more thoughtful set of criticisms of Apple's RSS extensions:

    http://usefulinc.com/edd/blog/contents/2005/06/28-rss-apple-itunes/read

  1. diamondsw

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    07/04, 04:10pm | report spam | Reply |

    Microsoft worked with RSS

    Nevermind that Microsoft actually worked with the community for its RSS extensions, and has had a very good relationship with them. Meanwhile Apple just does it's own thing - now why wouldn't you be upset at that?

    Since people don't seem to know (or care), yes, Dave Winer is a whiner, and has long posted pissy stuff over at "Userland" Frontier. However, he also CREATED RSS, so he's in a damn good position to complain.

  1. slider

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    07/04, 04:42pm | report spam | Reply |

    What's the big deal

    You can still download it directly from the sponsors website as an MP3 and burn it to a CD. No iPod, No iTunes. I use iTunes b/c it's convenient and I have an iPod; lots of people have iPods. I Apple gets out of hand, I can and will bypass Apple all together. No problem.

  1. climacs

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    07/04, 05:29pm | report spam | Reply |

    Dave Whiner

    what's the difference between Dave Winer and a dirigible?

    One is a bloated gasbag... the other is a lighter-than-air vehicle.

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