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Stalled PowerPC roadmap may have spurred Intel-Macs

updated 07:50 am EDT, Mon June 13, 2005

Apple-Intel deal details

Apple's negotiations with Intel until the last minute and may have been spurred by both pricing and a business decision by IBM to curtail development on its PowerPC roadmap, according to The New York Times: "Several executives close to the last-minute dealings between Apple and I.B.M. said that Mr. Jobs waited until the last moment - 3 p.m. on Friday, June 4 - to inform Big Blue. Those executives said that I.B.M. had learned about Apple's negotiations with Intel from news reports and that Apple had not returned phone calls in recent weeks. Each side disputes what led to the breakup. People close to I.B.M. said pricing was a central issue, while Mr. Jobs insisted on stage Monday that I.B.M. had failed to meet promised performance measures." The report says that Sony also tried (but failed) to convince Apple to use IBM's Cell processor, which will be used in the forthcoming PlayStation 3.




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  1. jimothy

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    PPC Stalls caused switch?

    Gee, do ya think?

  1. zioncity

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Keeping options open

    Apple did what is best for Apple. Regardless of how awesome the g5 is for a desktop computer at this moment.

    But when dual core 2ghz 32 bit chips come out for the eMac and Mac Mini and iBook. That will be great, and the faster 3+ ghz single or dual core chips for the rest and Xeons for servers... you get the idea.

    I have been hearing real world reports that the already native Intel Mac Apps, including Tiger... run awesome on the 3.6 ghz Macintel boxen... I mean they have been developing it from day one of OS X.

    I think IBM just dropped the ball but in a way that follows their business plan for the future... People are saying they are going more embedded and server chip market versus the PC personal computing market...

    Thus Apple had to play it safe and the distance gap of speed is quickly eroding... but remember this... they kep their options open...

    Who says they will not still work with PowerPC and Cell for more specific things.... iTivo or whatever it may be called...

    We shall see what the future brings, but with the early to mid 2006 Macintel release date coming... and I hope it is much sooner... at least when big name apps come out... Office and Adobe... with Macintel versions...

    This will be a time when all mac news sites get hounded 24/7

  1. paulc

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    InHell

    Has everyone missed the fact that Intel has had mostly bad press for their vaunted "roadmap" over the course of the past 2-3 years? That they have actually released to the market CPU chips that didn't even add correctly?

  1. AlenShapiro

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    I suspect...

    This move has been in the works since IBM failed to deliver 3GHz processors in time for last July's MacWorld. Steve has to have hated getting up on the stage to apologize. A year later, we're still not there.

    Now the market is moving further towards a dominance of portable computing and Apple has no place to go except Intel/AMD. My understanding is that "IBM Cell" would be almost as big a CPU jump as going Intel. If this is true, there's really no choice but to go with the chip architecture that has a manufacturer willing and able to supply the necessary chips for Apple's planned technology growth... and that's not IBM.

    Couple that with the fact that Win32 "emulation" can be as fast as native under MacOS and that (if necessary) the new Macs could dual-boot into Win32, and Apple stands to gain a lot of hardware sales, esp. if they can keep innovating design without compromising performance (and only charging a little price premium (please Apple)).

    IBM won't notice the loss of business. They'll be too busy concentrating on churning out XBOX chips for M$. Apple would have been able to apply diminishing influence in the PowerPC design arena as the XBOX saga plays out. XBOX sales might have hurt Apple's hardware sales too; if apple had gone with "Cell" how long would it have taken before MacOS X appeared on XBOX (ok, that last one's a bit of a stretch).

    My sympathy goes to MetroWerks (CodeWarrior fame). They seem to be the true losers. They have a great, dedicated team and are fervent Mac supporters. It would seem they have had the rug pulled completely out from under their business.

  1. boron

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Yeah but....

    Now everyone will have the same.

    Good or bad, what Intel delivers they will deliver to everyone. We'll never have to watch them get faster chips that we won't get.

  1. IonCable

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    cell, maybe

    Cell, on paper sounds great, but it does exist in production yet. The G5 dual cores and 3Ghz sounded great too. At least with Intel, you know they are going to continue to develop chips have Apple can use.

  1. IonCable

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Sorry,

    The Cell and 3GHZ DON'T exist in procustion. Bad typing.

  1. denim

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Gee

    Vaporchip versus existing chip. That's a toughy. Apple already got bit by vaporchip (3GHz G5), so why would they bend over again for a company which has already demonstrated that they don't care?

  1. testudo

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    What's next?

    Next thing you know, there's going to be a whole expose claiming Apple went to IBM for the G5 because of Motorola's failed road map. Remember, you heard that here first. Deep throat, you got competition now, buddy.

  1. trevc

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Vapour Chip?

    The Playstation 3 was listed as having a 3.2Ghz Cell ... did they not show it at E3??? This doesn't sound like a vapour chip.

    If Apple adopted the cheap cell chip as a Graphics processor or something like that, I'm sure they could produce systems that are quite astounding ... and that's where the oomph in the systems would come from???

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