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Dvorak: Linux could lose after Apple\'s Intel shift

updated 07:40 am EDT, Tue June 7, 2005

Linux the big loser?

Industry pundit John Dvorak says that , following Apple's announcement of its 2-year transition plan to the Intel architecture. "It's quite possible that this new Apple strategy while obviously harmful to the computer makers in general and to Microsoft somewhat could actually be most dangerous to the emerging Linux OS environment. In fact it could kill Linux and in some ways actually benefit Microsoft in the long term.... Linux has other problems too. It's likely that developer interest will wane when Apple is fully engaged on the X86 platform. While Apple ran on the PowerPC chip the amount of developer effort in the Open Source camps was nil. But now that Apple is using the same processor as everyone else, targeting the Macs will now be an easy decision to make. This will be at the expense of Linux."




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  1. dave a

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    don't think so...

    ...think this will be a great boon: it will be easy to support both at once now!

  1. automorrow

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Dvorak .. the bigger lose

    This guy is still a idiot .. even though it sounds like he likes Jobs announcement .. which scares me ..

    Seems this move is confusing to even the most educated Apple users ... so what about the stupid stock holders?

    Watch the big dump today ...

  1. Luke Chastain

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Overreaction

    First of all by what gauge is he assessing the open source community's suport of Mac OS X. A lot of Open Source projects have Darwin support.

    Second how will changing processors change their support? There probably is some video game or math-related open source project that would be affected by change processors, but most of the work is in inconsistencies between OS APIs.

    Also Linux is free and it your IT shop is comfortable with supporting it, they probably won't switch.

    Lastly, OS X won't run on just any Intel machine, so again, I've lost his point.

    It never ceases to amaze me how non-savy tech journalists can be.

  1. Kesey

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    re: don't think so...

    Dave - it will only be easy to support both at once if the Dev is using XCode.

  1. Jablabla

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    actually

    Linux is likely to increase as the Mac market faces yet another 'disruption' and loss of money due to endless user upgrades.

    I suppose my G5 Mac works as well now than it ever will. The problem is the security upddates. Thus, I disconnect the mac from the internet and use it in a safe environment. It does have many nice apps that linux does not offer.

    The technology was great the Jobs demonstrated. Problem is we all just upgraded to OS X. Now another upgrade.

  1. Okonomiyaki

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    dumb as ever...

    Regardless of processor, Macs will still be Macs. This should change absolutely nothing for Linux. It sounds more like he's saying that if Mac market share went way up then OSS developers would start to throw more effort into Mac based projects rather than Linux ones which sort of makes sense only if you believe that the purpose of the OSS movement is solely to have an alternative to Microsoft. It's not. The other possibility is that he's suggesting that Intel Scheissbox users, tired of Windows' problems, will install OSX instead of Linux. Not gonna happen. It won't shock me if someone comes up with a complex way of hacking a Dell and making it sort of run OSX in a really half-assed way but Apple isn't going to make it easy to do.

  1. lockhartt

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Dvorak the Instigator

    Dvorak has always had a huge chip on his shoulder when it comes to Steve Jobs and Apple, and has always gone out of his way to push the buttons of those passionate about the Mac platform. This latest statement about Linux losing marketshare and Microsoft benefitting as a result is in keeping with this MO... only this time he's trying to pit the two most passionate groups against each other in a shrike-and-clam battle. Whether Dvorak's motiviation is purely self-indulgent in the name of entertainment, or if there's something more Machiavellian in his motive (such that Microsoft ends up looking better in comparison to the squabbling Mac and Linux zealots and ends up the sole beneficiary) is open for debate. Whatever the case, it's just John Dvorak being John Dvorak... if we all keep it rational and real, or just ignore him all together, neither of the possible objectives of his commentary are met. In the end, the move to Intel has the possibility of being good for everyone as it can potentially expand the marketshare for the Mac, Linux, AND Windows... with a machine that can potentially run all three of these natively, there are certainly many folks will do just that.

  1. crovira

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Dvorak is the class b*tch

    I have rarely read anything by him that didn't make me laugh. He is so clueless that he epitomizes 'Applegate-ness' (and he probably would need all the punniness of this joke explained to him.)

    The man's a journalistic failure and, jumping up and down at the back of the line trying to catch a glimpse of the action, gives 'punditry' a bad name. [sorry, couldn't resist :-]

    He is the unintended consequence of the first amendment to the constitution. Laugh along and don't let him have any pointed instruments. Don't give him any of your change or he might buy a clue.

  1. Sebastien

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Nah!

    Nothing will change!

    Programming for the Mac will still be the same - the machine will just be a bit less expensive.

    And Linux will still be free. Even MS can't compete with that, even if they wanted/tried to.

  1. Titanium Man

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Stop being so knee-jerk

    Seems to me people here aren't actually reading the column cited. Luke Chastain for instance says he's lost Dvorak's point that OS X would run on any Intel system. I'll say he has. Dvorak never wrote that. He wrote that Windows would be able to run on Macintels, which Apple has admitted they won't block.

    There's a deeply ingrained distrust and distaste for Dvorak. Yes, it's deserved, but this column actually isn't that bad. Of course, now that Apple has gone Intel and Dvorak has actually written something complimentary about Apple, I'm anxiously keeping an eye out for the other two horsemen of the apocalypse.

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