RSS RSS Twitter Twitter
digital music/video

05/24/2005, 9:20pm, EDT

Tuesday, May 24th

Jobs bets Yahoo! will raise prices in 5 months

Steve Jobs is betting that Yahoo! will soon raise prices on its online music service launched earlier this month. In early May, Yahoo! debuted a new subscription music service which starts at $60 per year for unlimited music service, which "rents" an unlimited number of songs to users as long as they pay their monthly subscription fee. According to The Wall Street Journal, Jobs said that Yahoo is charging "substantially" below its costs and will likely increase the price in the coming months. "Mr. Jobs then claimed Apple employees had a betting pool on when Yahoo would raise the $5-a-month rate, with Mr. Jobs putting his money on five months....Mr. Jobs proclaimed himself a solid believer in the 'halo effect' of iPod sales fueling Mac sales, pointing to strong growth in recent quarters. Asked when Apple would reach a 10% market share – up from the low single digits -- he said he didn't know. But he added that 'it's possible … if people learn about our products, many of them choose them.'" [subscription required]


Filed under: industry
Other story tags: digital music/video

, , 15comments, del.icio.us, slashdot, digg, buzz , Twitter



15 comments
Reader Reactions (Please use <i></i> for italic text)

subscribe to comments
for this article




Expand All   Global Settings
hmm...
0
05/24, 9:42pm, EDT
Yahoo! is also flush with cash too and is eager to move into multimedia (note its hiring of TV veterans; Terry Semel himself is a Hollywood exec for 25 years).

Just because Job said that, I am willing to put money down that Yahoo! will not raise price but in the next 5 months.
Senior User
Joined Jul 2002
User is offline
huh
0
05/24, 10:08pm, EDT
so are you saying they will raise their price or they wont?
Professional Poster
Joined Jan 2000
User is offline
IMHO
0
05/24, 10:31pm, EDT
I am saying that Yahoo! will not raise its price in the next 5 months, especially after Job's comment. Beyond that, hard to say but my guess is not likely.

Here's why: logically, Y! should raise its price after it crushes the likes of Napster. I mean, what does Napster (and its ilks) offer that Y! does not? Bigger library? Better quality of audio? Integration into Yahoo? Superior application (written from scratch, support AAC, MP3, WMA, FLAC, etc? None of the above.

Factors against Y! raising its price: iTunes is still the #1 music store. Google will come onto the music scene sooner or later. No point in raising its price, then Google comes in, and then having to lower it to compete. Y! may bundle it into the SBC plan, for example, giving it control of the pipeline and the content.

Too many factors to call it one way or another for now.
Senior User
Joined Jul 2002
User is offline
Fear
0
05/24, 10:55pm, EDT
Sure sounds like Jobs is scared, so much so that he is resorting to spreading his "Yahoo will raise their price in a few months" diversion through the press.

Addicted to MacNN
Joined Feb 2002
User is offline
Important Message
0
05/24, 11:35pm, EDT
Attention: The preceding statement by Apple CEO Steven P. Jobs was mentioned in the context of a "bet." In no way should this statement be construed as a "promise" that Yahoo will raise prices within the next five months. Should Mr. Jobs' prediction not come to fruition, Mac users and/or their antagonists should in no way feel entitled to any of the following actions: (1) whining; (2) bitching; (3) moaning.
Fresh-Faced Recruit
Joined Aug 2001
User is offline
Fear? Yeah right
0
05/25, 12:30am, EDT
They sold more iPods in the last two quarter than they did the entire time before that. iTMS is not a money maker, the iPods are.

Remember how you guys were saying that Apple is doomed and that they need to open up Fairplay to survive two quarters ago? Don't quit your day jobs as you guys make lousy fortune tellers.
Senior User
Joined Jul 2004
User is offline
Arrogance?
0
05/25, 1:45am, EDT
Am I the only one that thinks that Steve Jobs seems to be getting a little arrogant here? He shouldn't let his arrogance blind him.
Fresh-Faced Recruit
Joined Nov 1999
User is offline
Pot and kettle
0
05/25, 2:18am, EDT
"you guys make lousy fortune tellers."

So was Steve and so are you too.
Senior User
Joined Jul 2002
User is offline
betting pool
0
05/25, 2:29am, EDT
I'm starting a betting pool on when Apple starts offering subscriptions for iTMS.

My money says five months ;)
Fresh-Faced Recruit
Joined Sep 2001
User is offline
Re: Arrogance
0
05/25, 2:32am, EDT
Steve Jobs has never lacked in the "arrogance" department. So what else is new?

Apple would be worried if iTunes Music Store was actually playing by the same rules as its so-called "competition." It's not. iTunes has a lock on its users because its users use iPods.

Apple will only care if users start to buy non-iPod devices just so they can use these subscription services. And amazingly enough, most consumers base their music player buying decision on the quality of the music player, not on which music download service is compatible.

That means that Yahoo! (and Napster and Real) are depending more on Creative and the other non-iPod makers being successful against Apple's iPod than on any imagined direct competition with iTunes Music Store. And that, is called being in a bad position.

On the other hand, Apple controls its own success when it comes to music. I think Steve Jobs has earned to right to show some "arrogance" (or perhaps "pride" would be a better word) regarding what Apple has accomplished here.
Fresh-Faced Recruit
Joined Nov 2001
User is offline
additional comments:..1..2..Next
Your Comments

In order to post comments: If you are a registered member, please login with your MacNN Forums username and password otherwise please uncheck the checkbox below.


Registered Member?
macnn forums login:

macnn forums password:

Not a member of the MacNN forums? Register now for free.

RSS Feeds

Have the latest content delivered to your desktop via RSS. Use the links below to get access to a specific blog, news, or reviews feed.



  MacNN -all

  MacNN Reviews

  MacNN Podcasts

  iPodNN

  Electronista

  Left Lane News
Want To Sell Your Laptop? Any Condition - receive Top Cash. Get an instant quote. Free shipping www.CashForLaptops.com

Internet Marketing School - 100% Online: Master SEO, SEM, E Commerce, Media & More with a U of San Francisco Certificate.

Buy from The Apple Store, iTunes.com, Amazon.com, TechDepot, OfficeDepot, Computers4Sure, or donate.