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The future of digital music: iPod or phones?

updated 01:50 pm EDT, Tue April 19, 2005

Apple vs. mobile carriers


Apple will soon be facing in the US, according to BusinessWeek. As widely expected, the publication says that Verizon Wireless, Sprint, and Cingular are expected to unveil services for downloading music directly to wireless phones later this year. "With innovative services and snazzier phones, the telecom players figure they can swipe a chunk of the digital music market that Apple cracked open with its iconic iPod. That sets the stage for a battle between two industries. On one side are Apple and the other tech players concentrated in Silicon Valley that see the computer as central to the future of music. On the other are telecom companies, from Finland to South Korea to the U.S., that think the mobile phone can become the center of this emerging world." Carriers are looking for direct-to-mobile downloads for about $2 per song, according to the report.

"The iPod is great," says Frank Nuovo, chief designer for Nokia, the world's largest handset maker. "But no one has a stranglehold. There's nothing that keeps the mobile phone from moving into that area."

Telecom companies have an advantage because they have an enormous installed base of 1.4 billion phones (compared with 10 million iPods) and easy accounting/payment system with a majority of their users--their cell phone bill. Also they can provide music anywhere, anytime via their mobile network; however, storage capacity and interface concerns are still concerns for mobile networks.

The report says that Apple has a rough start in working with wireless operators, noting that wireless networks such as Verizon and Sprint have balked at carrying the iPod phone because it would make iTunes the central download center and users would then sync the phone with their PC-based music collections. Mobile operators want customers to download directly to their phone, so they could become part of the revenue stream.

"It's hard for people in any industry to support something that cuts them out of potential future revenue streams," says Graeme Ferguson, director for global content development at Vo


by MacNN Staff

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  1. SomeToast

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    Snazzier phones

    Thanks, youth market. Thanks for the "snazzier" phones. Thanks for the glut of clamshelled, neon-lighted, unusable-keypadded, paid-polyphonic-ringtoned phones that are all the rage today.

    God, I miss my Nokia 8260.

  1. jokell82

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    Yeah right

    They're insane if they think I'm going to pay $2 for a single song. There's a reason I bought a phone with bluetooth - transferring songs to it is a breeze from my iBook and I don't have to deal with paying absurd prices from the wireless companies.

  1. Arty50

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    $2...

    ...good luck with that. Very few people are going to buy music for $2 per song...plus airtime charges. They're insane.

  1. yticolev

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    Subscription?

    You know, $5 a month Korean model subscription sounds like a killer deal. Even if it is phone only. If that is really sustainable, it will give iTunes a run for the money. Certainly loads better than $3 per song and equivilant to or better than many $5 upgrades to cell phone service.

  1. zdezyne

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    Likely failure

    Music phone service that charges $2/song will die a quick death. For starters that price is twice the norm and they will have to lower the prices on ringtones which is the carriers bread and butter. Second, the phone will most definitely cost more than a iPod Mini or Shuffle and won't have nearly the same storage capacity as a HD based player. And not only that, the phone will be rather large and the same size as a Treo. The vast majority of cellular users don't want to carry a large phone. Carriers will attempt to subsidize part of the cost for a phone but it will still cost the consumer somewhere in the $300-$400 range initially. And that point you might as well get an iPod and use a free phone 'cause it wil take about a year for the price to get down to the affordable $99 range. Cellular carriers are truly lame. I'll stick w/iTunes.

  1. mrgaskell

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    And...

    Most people I know upgrade their phone about once a year or so. They are not going to pay $300+ each time they upgrade. Also, I don't know anyone who would want to seriously listen to msuic on their phone. Ringtones are cool, allows you to be a little different, but I guarantee that people do not want a brick of a phone that only carries 256mb of songs, you have to buy additional media for, and carry and extra pair of earbuds or buy specialized headphones just to listen to the music you have.

    Can you download and burn? Share with other devices? If no, you need not apply.

  1. Nostromo

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    Lord, help us...

    "Ringtones are cool, allows you to be a little different"

    If this is what passes for individuality these days, God help us all.

    I'm still trying to stop laughing thinking of people paying MONEY for a ringtone--talk about a sucker born every minute...

  1. JeffHarris

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    The Curse of ADD

    Seriously, why on earth would I want to listen to music on my phone? OR have a camera in my phone for that matter? Okay, my phone has a camera, but I did not WANT one.

    Besides, the battery life on my phone is atrocious as it is, so now what little there is, they want me to use up playing music? Yeah, right.

    Yes, it can be annoying carrying a bunch of different devices around, but ANYthing that tries to be an All-in-One is usually an All-Does-None. A dud, packed with features and uses that are difficult to learn or program and execute poorly.

    They think that a bunch of ex-music pirates would PAY for some music download service? Uh huh, pay for music AND phone minutes. it IS a great deal... for the phone companies.

  1. wings_rfs

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    Nothing but money

    Nokia says "There's nothing that keeps the mobile phone from moving into that area."

    Well, nothing except for 2 or 3 bucks a song. They have priced themselves right out of the competition before they ever get off the ground.

  1. shmoolie

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    Going Nowheres

    I don't see this going anywheres. I've been waiting for the cellphone companies to get their act together for a long time but they are still stuck in the same old pay for minutes/ringtones/screensavers mode. People want cell plans that have unlimited minutes - just like their home phones. They want to be able to download something and own it - not just rent it for a few weeks. Sure, if you're a teenager in Japan with nothing better to do with your time and money you'll love all the cool features but most people who own cell phones around the world fall into far different categories (and many of those 1,8 billion cell users are company provided that do not allow for downloading anything onto them).

    Just look at the types of people wearing iPod earbuds. They range across the spectrum - young to old. They want their music player to synch with their PC's - easily and fast. They want to be able to rip and burn their own CD's. People who write these articles always seem to forget that music players are only 1/2 the suite. The ability to store your entire music collection on your home PC, to back it up to a disk, to swap songs, to create CD's, to download music is the other half. The two MUST be seamless. Apple's iPod in conjunction with iTunes does just that. Cellphone companies do not and no one will convince me that they will be able to any time soon.

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