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News organizations back rumor sites in legal dispute

updated 11:30 am EDT, Mon April 11, 2005

Committee backs Mac sites


The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press and 12 news organizations filed papers that a California judge reconsider his refusal to shield the publishers from Apple's inquiries about sources for insider information. The organizations include the Associated Press, the Los Angeles Times and Hearst. "We thought the order would set a dangerous precedent and make it more difficult for journalists to cover stories," said Lucy Dalglish, executive director of the Reporters Committee and lawyer for the news groups. "There's a trend right now toward government and private parties using journalists as investigators for their cases." Judge James Kleinberg of Santa Clara County Superior Court in San Jose, Calif., on March 3 decided Apple could subpoena two online news sites, the e-mail service provider for one of the sites, and the publisher of a third Web site.


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  1. Sebastien

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    Trend

    ""There's a trend right now toward government and private parties using journalists as investigators for their cases.""

    No, the trend is people who call themselves 'journalists' blantantly break laws to get stories that have no benefit to the public good, just the public interest on trivial matters.

  1. mgpalma

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    re: Trend

    Absolutely agree. The dangerous precedent would be allowing 'Freedom of Speech' to be distorted to this end.

    Where would it end?

  1. testudo

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    Re: trend

    "There's a trend right now toward government and private parties using journalists as investigators for their cases."

    That's funny, since its rare to find a "journalist" who investigates, rather then just reports what he's told or just pontificates on how good/bad someone is performing at their job.

    Plus, I'm concerned that the people who SHOULD be investigating aren't doing their job, and perhaps trying to use 'journalists' to get around the obstacle of the law. (You know, its illegal to repeat/disclose grand jury testimony, but apparently its fine to just shoot it over to a "journalist", and have them release it. That way, people hear what's supposed to be confidential without worrying about breaking laws. Same with releasing CIA operative identities, apparently.

    I wonder when the 'journalists' are going to realize they're just tools of those who want information disseminated? Of course, they think they need to keep this up to keep their 'contacts' happy so they can get these 'exclusives'.

  1. Deal

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    That's nice

    If I know somebody committed a crime and not only don't report it, but refuse to give information when asked, I'm aiding and also guilty...

    However, a reporter is free to do so because they write about it.

    I think this should be taken to a higher level and the rules for protecting the press should be re-considered. If somebody wants to write something, I'm all for freedom of speech. I am not for protecting people who break the law.

    I hope Apple pushes this not only to the point of getting what they want, but changing the laws regarding ALL MEDIA!

    That would serve them right.

  1. Oase

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    Slippery Slop......

    To be free our society needs freedom of news reporting. I think we must be very careful when considering who gets to define what's news for everyone else.

    Power corrupts and unconditional power corrupts unconditionally. Controlling the news is power.

    So far I have not seen anything that suggests Apple thinks the journalists are crimminals, they just want their sources. Its the sourcses who Apple thinks have legal problems. At least that is how I read it.

    Jim

  1. Sebastien

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    re: slippery slope

    "So far I have not seen anything that suggests Apple thinks the journalists are crimminals, they just want their sources. Its the sourcses who Apple thinks have legal problems. At least that is how I read it."

    But these 'journalists' try to hide behind protections afforded to real journalists, when clearly they shouldn't be allowed to. I don't know of any real, legitimate journalist that blantantly breaks the law to get a story that really is a trivial matter to the public. It's not like these guys were whisle-blowing some big conspiracy or something.

    Now the EFF is partially right in that Apple could have exhausted some other routes before coming to this point, but the 'journalists' decided to play the game, now they just can't pull out with excuses that they're victims.

  1. just a poster

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    f*** newspapers

    dinosaurs.

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