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Briefly: Jobs turns 50, Disney/Pixar fallout details

updated 12:05 pm EST, Thu February 24, 2005

Jobs turns 50

In Brief: Steve Jobs today is now selling the top third-party applications for Palm OS and Windows Mobile/Pocket PC handheld devices in its online store.




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  1. slboett

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Unreal, Apple...

    Why in the h*** would they use USB 2 as the standard on iPods?
    USB 2 sucks on the Mac, and now we Mac users have to pay extra for a FW cable?
    That's c***, Apple.
    Steve also turned 50 - maybe Alzheimer's is kicking in early?

    SB

  1. spacefreak

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Now a Windows Accessory

    And so continues the evolution of Apple as a seller of Windows accessories.

  1. Dr.Funkenstein

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    "What a young punk!"

    Sez Abe Vigoda, age 84 today. ;-)

  1. LouZer

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    ADC

    All you people whining about the switch to USB 2.0 are also probably the same people whining about Apple's ADC connection on their older monitors. Firewire might be great (ADC was/is, supplies power, video, USB, on one cable, sounds good to me, let's see dell do that), but it isn't close to having penetration. I guess you all think Apple should have been just closed-minded and stubborn and kept it firewire only, to force people to adopt a technology that they apparently have no desire for. Yeah, I can see you all creating large-selling devices, too (actually I don't since you would probably insist on making them mac only and thus ignoring 97% of the population).

  1. slboett

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    LouZer is right...

    FYI, troll, I would like Apple to keep both cables - not putting anyone out. You're such a typical PC user / Mac slammer.
    FireWire is superior. Even many PCs have it now.
    I don't see high-zoot video cameras using USB over firewire.
    USB is great for keyboards and mice, not bigger peripherals.

    SB

  1. Roehlstation

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Price cut

    Do you suppose they were able to achieve a lower cost by lot including the FireWire Cable? I just bought a thin firewire cable yesterday and it cost nearly $30.

  1. slboett

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Cable cost...

    Apple prolly gets cables for under a buck, in volume.
    I've seen decent FW cables for $5-6.
    I don't like this move, nor the message it sends.

    SB

  1. beeble

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Happy B'day

    Happy Birthday Abe and Steve!

    And LouZer...
    Firewire doesn't have market penetration? Show me a digital video camera and I'll show you a firewire port. Firewire is used in video mixers, digital audio mixers, recorders of all sorts, etc. It is also on any computer wishing to use these devices.

    Every single PC out there that is used to edit DV has a firewire port on it. In fact many PC's have more Firewire ports than Mac's do. The most common FW PCI card that I've seen installed has three ports on it (although I think they were all on the same bus). Firewire has great market penetration, peripheral manufactures just don't seem to want to use it. It probably comes down to USB 2 being cheaper to license from Intel than Firewire is from Apple.

    As for performance, USB 2 is significantly worse than Firewire400. I won't go into the technical reasons, they are freely available on the net. USB was designed for keyboards, mice and joysticks. The design of the system doesn't scale well and this is shown with the slower speed in real world tasks (transferring files to an external HD) even with a higher theoretical bandwidth.

  1. SomeToast

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Include NO cable

    Have no cable in the box, and throw whichever one the customer requests in with the bag/order.

    At the very least, Apple should allow me to swap out the useless USB cable for a Firewire cable at no cost. This would also give them an idea of how many people are using Firewire with their iPods.

  1. Saint_Stryfe

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    I said...

    in a previous post that in my Major Office Supply store (hint: The one based in Florida), where I work, we have 9 PC desktops. of them, 6 have FW on board, only the three lowest lack it. People who buy those machines want Internet Terminals and typewriters. Anyone who uses for much else buy up (500+) and have it.

    I do think SomeToast's idea is fair - include USB2, but have a free, overnight mail-away for a Firewire cable, should you desire it.

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