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What gives?

Is this due to the settings that iTunes uses (in which case can they tell us what they are)? Since iTunes uses Quicktime to do the encoding, shouldn't any aac file encoded with Quicktime Player or another Quicktime based app be able to work?

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okay.

Seriously. Even the quoted text says 'AAC'. Whoever posted this needs to look at their TLA's and try again. A-A-C.

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this is bad

A major glitch on a new device that got a lot of very public attention, and Apple makes the "whole widget" here...what gives? This sounds like something Microsoft would pull.

IF Microsoft made hardware.

Which they don't.

And how long until the Mac-haters are beating the drum about this?

Bad. Bad. Very bad.

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many possible reasons

The chip used in the iPod shuffle may only support AAC files that adhere to the standards set forth by the MPEG group. A LOT of developers like to add their own hooks and/or take short cuts when implementing technologies to either save money or time.

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Port not just Mac/shuffle

The USB port incompatibility issue is not just related to Macs and the iPod shuffle. There are other USB devices that do not fit into USB ports where they have been positioned too close to other ports and or casings. Purchasing an inexpensive USB extension cable is the easiest and cheapest fix.

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USB Extension

I found 1 Ft. USB extension cables for 46�. Shipping is $6.50 So a quantity puchase will keep down the total price.

https://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=ST-USB_AF1

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$0.46?

If they're that cheap, Apple should include one in the box.

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For Real?

Maybe this has to do with alternate AAC formats like the one developed by Real.

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hmmm..docks included?

Nope..docks are not included with the 20gig iPod..why should they include a cable when it works wih all current mac lineups? Granted they certainly do include a extension cable with keyboards..but maybe there is no cable included to keep the price at a bare minimum..maybe its just to sell more docks! Either way..I wouldn't spend a split second on this nobrainer..go buy a cable instead of whining about having to wait for a dock! (You're dock order will most likely come earlier than it states anyway!)

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Oh yeah..

I think they should have included a USB cable by the way..just like the way they include a firewire and a usb cable with all the other iPod lineup..maybe it had something to do with the packaging?

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Well I think

I think they should have a Bluetooth dock for it :).

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Re: this is bad

A major glitch on a new device that got a lot of very public attention, and Apple makes the "whole widget" here...what gives? This sounds like something Microsoft would pull.

Well, its a question whether its a glitch (as you call it) or a design decision. If its a glitch, its something that can/would be fixed (through an update). If its a design decision (ala an MS kind of thing), then its like something they would pull. But you should try to keep your point to one side or the other.

IF Microsoft made hardware.

Which they don't.

Actually, I thought they did. I mean, what's that MS mouse on my desk? Made by logitech? And they make keyboards. And I think a few other things.

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Re: this is bad

LouZer: No, Microsoft does not manufacture any hardware, nor do they design it. They license it from other companies and have it manufactured. For example, their first optical mouse was invented by HP and the only thing that Microsoft had changes on it was the color of the plastics and their name stamped on it. You can go back and see the HP prototype on a page congratulating their engineer who designed it.

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Re: this is bad

Well, if you're going to sort through technicalities, then Apple doesn't manufacture iMacs, either. They hire out to someone else who makes them (sure, they design them, but I'm sure MS has a say in the design of their hardware as well). You don't think if MS 'hired out' some firm to produce an MP3 player, they wouldn't make sure it (a) would play WMA, (b) wouldn't play AAC, and (c) would break with some non-MS WMA files?

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re: seriously

what are you talking about?

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AllofMP3.com

Does anyone know whether the "incompatibility" with some AAC files and the iPod Shuffle affect songs from allofmp3.com? I don't have an iPod Shuffle to test this. Seems like the sort of .m4a files Apple would like to prevent from playing.

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compatible w/other ipods?

I would think this is a temporary design issue and not a significant problem. If the other ipods play 'A-A-C' *roll* files with a broader tolerance, then it only makes sense that the ipod shuffle play the same files. Apple knows people are going to buy ipods and use products not purchased or ripped through itms/itunes, that's one of the reasons it supports mp3 (oh sorry Mpeg 2 layer 3 anal 5 just weird 8). QT actually makes quite a few 'non-standard hooks/additions' ex: AMR headers defaulted to streaming through the header when they shouldn't have. The shuffle may have been pushed through using Apple's own software as a guideline, but it doesn't mean that we should expect any less compatibility than on other ipods..or for that matter full AAC AAC AAC support. So, either Apple flashes it or r2's it. Either way it's minor considering where the bulk of the paid download AAC files are coming from (ITMS). As for the adapter. Of course Apple should ship a .49c part w/ the shuffle. It's just come out and these two issues will affect a negligable portion of users. The adapter part having a complete remedy. I'm buying the dock anyways since I'm not having something stuck behind my machine..oh look..an Apple solution already. Talk about trolling by your own fans.

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Extension cables w/key b.

During the days of the G3/G4 powermacs, Apple produced 2 types of keyboards: one with a short USB cord for the iMac and one with a longer cord, for the PowerMac (presumably so the cord would reach to a tower stored under the desk or on the floor). Later, when they released the full sized black keyed (then white later one) Pro keyboards, they all included a short cord. I have always assumed they threw the USB extension to compensate for a long-corded version which no longer shipped with the PowerMacs.

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iPod shuffle may not play well with all AAC files

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For Real?

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What gives?

okay.

this is bad

many possible reasons

Port not just Mac/shuffle

USB Extension

$0.46?

For Real?

hmmm..docks included?

Oh yeah..

Well I think

Re: this is bad

Re: this is bad

Re: this is bad

re: seriously

AllofMP3.com

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Extension cables w/key b.

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