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  1. cmoney

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Walkman was a fad?

    Umm, wasn't the walkman around from the 70s to the 80s? The only reason it started to die out was because of a technology shift towards CDs. Hardly a fad if you ask me. Most fads last about 6-9 months and then die out. We'll see if the iPod can continue selling at the rate it is now, but I don't foresee it dropping off the face of the planet by 2005.

  1. BlueDjinn01

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Mac mini v Dell & Shuttle

    FYI, I've posted a *fully-detailed* shootout between the Mac mini and a Dell Dimension 2400 model as well as the Shuttle XPC G4300h:

    http://www.systemshootouts.org/

    (Note: I am well aware that there are other Dell models which may have better specs for $600, and that they may have changed their promos since last week; this is not meant to be an absolute comparison, just a comparison of a *typical* low-end Dell offering at the time of the comparison)

  1. BlueDjinn01

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    "Walkman"? Fine with me

    Lessee here, here's some info on how well the Sony Walkman "fad" did:

    http://tingilinde.typepad.com/starstuff/2003/10/sony_walkman_hi.html

    "The Walkman created a totally new market for portable stereo systems, and it became a much-loved product around the world. In June 1989, 10 years after the launch of the first model, the total number of Walkman units manufactured had exceeded 50 million, and in 1992 this reached 100 million. In 1995, total production of Walkman units reached 150 million."

    150 million units over around 16 years.

    The iPod has sold 10 million over around 3 years. According to Dell, they're looking at selling "only" another 140 million iPods over the next 13 years, to which my response is, "WORKS FOR ME!!"

  1. iomatic

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Eating

    Time to get a fork, Dell.

    It's CROW time...

  1. VadersCape

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Glad to see ...

    ... that Dull is offering a fad music service to go with its fad music player too.

    And for those folks who'd really like to make movies and have their music and photo collections handy through apps that just plain work, is $500 or $600 too much to pay? Let's see whose box the KVM switch is set to the most.

    And hey, while I'm here I might as well check out their browser. Whoa ... that Quicktime is pretty awesome ... lemme see: that mail application looks pretty decent. Wow, I'm not getting viruses like I used to ... gee, I wonder if these folks make bigger computers that are just as reliable ...

    Up for a game, Dull?

  1. ender

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    CEOs

    The reactions of some industry CEOs (most notably Creative and now Dell) to the Mac mini and iPod shuffle remind me school yard bullies, who, when finally bested by the class runt, can do nothing but sling verbal insults trying reinflate their egos.

    Face it, you've been slapped by the cold hard truth of things, and it stings a little bit, doesn't it?

  1. mjtomlin

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Wish stupidity was a fad.

    Fads usually involve inexpensive items that have no additional investment or value. The iPod has an entire peripheral market backing it up, which amounts to free advertising. With so many people buying music from the iTunes Music store, no one is going to want to toss their iPod out for a rival player that can't play the music they paid for.

    Also...

    Although it will never happen, I really wish people would think about the target audience for the Mac mini and except it for what it is rather than trying to build it up and run it down for what it's not....

    #1 Apple never said it was the cheapest PC on the planet, it said it was the cheapest Mac ever made available. Meaning this is the lowest price point an Apple system has ever sold for.

    #2 Steve Jobs specifically said it is BYOKMD, meaning it was for people who already have a keyboard, mouse and display to connect to it. The only people who will benefit from the cost of this system are those who don't need a complete system or one with all those extra options tacked on. Period.

    #3 256MB RAM is enough to run OS X! I'm sick of hearing that it's not! True it's not enough to run a dozen applications at the same time, but it is enough to run a few. Of course more memory is always better, but not always necessary. (I had 192MB on a 5 year old G3 iMac, it ran Panther just fine. Problems did start when trying to run multiple apps though. After upgrading it to 256MB it can run several apps without any problems; Safari, Mail, iCal and AppleWorks. It is still not the speediest system, but you have take into account that it is a 300MHz G3)

    #4 Of course Apple is going to "cripple" some of the features - They really want you to buy an iBook or iMac. The mini is a stepping stone for up-selling to a complete system with higher margins. Sales person, "Well by the time you add all those options, for a little money more you could buy an iMac which offers you a faster system (will last longer) and it's easily upgradable (extending life)."

  1. ElRay

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Let's look at Dells

    OK, look at the Dell that's been price cut to the same as a Mini. You're hobbled with a Celeron, you're crippled with a shared memory video card, dumbed-down to XP home, slowed down to 10/100 BaseT, only get a CD-RW (actually, you only get a CD, but the sale price includes the upgrade to CD-R), no firewire, a 90 day warranty, a cheap CRT, keyboard and mouse. Get it as close as you can to a Mini at the Dell store (but you'll still be missing iLife, Gigabit Ethernet, a real video card with it's own memory, a secure operating system, etc.) and you're at $891. I can buy a good LCD monitor, keyboard and mouse for less than $500 (remember, you'd still have to add a real video card). What a bargain.

  1. ElRay

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Oh, and in my case ...

    I forgot to add, I've got an extra USB keyboard, two USB mice and an LCD display, so my extra cost is $0. Oh, I also forgot to include the fact that OS X comes with a complete development environment and scripting tools. Looks like the Dell Dude isn't doing commercials anymore because he's the cost benefit analysis for the CEO.

  1. slider

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    They replied

    Well, the fact that they commented means that they took note. I think if there was no concern then they would not have mentioned a thing. Dell has been a long time Apple hater, I mean from the very top, Michel Dell. It is unfortunate that Dell has become the number one PC maker in the world, another example of how powerful marketing is. Dell is company, just like M$, that does not really introduce new tech or innovates existing tech, they just take things off the shelf and snap it all together. When they (dell) said Apple was not even in the same league as Dell, well, they don't seem to know how right they were. Oh, and for their 'cheap' PC's, one friend sent back her 2 year old $900 laptop b/c it just died. A guy at work sent his sub-$500 machine back b/c is was too hard to set up, and some random person I met at walmart couldn't get his Dell to connect to his existing and functioning network through the etherjack, so he was shopping for a PCI 10/100 card. Yeah, Dells lowend is exactly that, cheap, at least the Mac mini appears to have all the quality components typically of most macs.

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