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iRiver: shuffle is surprising, but doesn\'t compete

updated 05:50 pm EST, Sun January 16, 2005

iRiver scoffs iPod shuffle

Following , but also that it doesn't compete with iRiver's more premium, feature-focused product offerings: "'The first [surprise] is that iPod (Shuffle) is targeting the low-end area,' he said. The low price is no surprise, as Chinese products are already available at that price: the surprise is that Apple is producing a low-end product, he said. 'The second is that they introduced the 1G (byte) player that can contain about 200 songs. It will be very difficult for users to look for and find their favorite songs.'"




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  1. spacefreak

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Good point

    I could see how finding a certain song out of 200 could get annoying.

  1. njfuzzy

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    In other news....

    Bill Gates says that while Mac OS X is compelling, it can't compete with Windows, because Windows is better.

    Michael Eisner says DreamWorks animated movies don't have a future, because Disney cartoons are better.

    George Bush says the Democratic platform isn't as good as the Replican.

    Pepsi CEO says Coke doesn't taste as good as Pepsi.

    Why is it news when someone says their product is better than their competitor's? This is stupid.

  1. aristotles

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    RE: Good point

    "I could see how finding a certain song out of 200 could get annoying."
    That's what a playlist is for. Make a shorter playlist and use the extra space as a USB flash drive.

    How many of you guys honestly spend any real amount of time looking at the display of your larger iPods anyway? I usually use the shuffle feature when I'm walking. I don't want to take the iPod out of my pocket to navigate the UI.

    Those one line displays on the smaller displays are useless. Imagine walking along and trying to read the scrolling song title and tripping over the curb because you are not paying attention to what is in front of you.

    I don't know about you guys, but I recognize songs by ear, not by song title.

  1. hardcat1970

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Good point

    Especially a lot of people still carry those CD players, mp3 CD players and mini disc players. And those players don't have a screen that display song titles too.

    A lot of households have their own printers, why not just print out a playlist and read it from there.

  1. sometwo

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    screens are pointless

    I think screens on < 1 GB players just suck battery power and drive up the cost of the player. Also there are no free iriver sites but there are free ipod shuttles so it's eassy to get one http://tinyurl.com/63wtj

  1. jscotta

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    True. But not the point..

    ...of the player. I think it is designed to be a sort of commercial-free music station where you get to set the music available rather than some DJ. If you want the find-anything-fast ability in your player, then you get a Mini iPod.

  1. flask

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    ok, look

    The reason I bought an iPod Shuffle is NOT so I could keep my entire 15 GB collection of music files on it. I got it so I could load it up randomly (and automatically) before I leave the house and have more than ample music for the car ride I'm about to make. And really, I don't need 16 hours of portable music either, but I thought it would be nice to have the extra space as a flash drive. Considering 1gb flash keychain drives still go for $100+, paying an extra $50 for a music player and Apple's ease of use makes it well worth the price and "limited" functionality (though it's not "limited" at all in the capacity I want to use it).

  1. flask

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    also...

    It's also somewhat ironic (or just stupid) that people decry the iPod Shuffle for being built to do what it's named for: shuffling. If it were meant to hold all your songs and let you find them quickly, it would be 10 gb+ and be called the iPod Search. Or, just iPod, like it is now. But then of course it wouldn't start at $99 or be in my price range. :)

  1. Roehlstation

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Grasping for straws

    these guys are grasping for straws now. Not a very impressive marketing department. Most of the time I'm using my iPod with it in my pocket on shuffle mode and the remote to pretty much do exactly what I am going to to with an iPod Shuffle.

    I so hoped Apple would release the iPod Shuffle because it does all I want it to do and it plays my AAC files.

  1. Nitride

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    No Contest

    The bottom line is that I won't be buying a competing product to the iPod Shuffle. I will be buying an iPod Shuffle, period, using my George W. Bush Super-sized tax refund in a few weeks.

    The iPod shuffle is *exactly* what I want. No more, no less. I don't have thousands of songs. I listen to music randomly. I like the lanyard feature (I wear a lanyard with ID badges already).

    I like the price.

    I don't like the other products due to their overall size or lack of Mac-friendliness.

    They are right, there is no competition - I am getting an iPod shuffle and not even considering anything else.

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