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iTunes Music Store Europe without UK Indie labels?

updated 12:50 pm EDT, Mon June 14, 2004

 

No UK Indies at ITMS?


Apple's iTunes Music Store Europe, expected to be announced tomorrow, may launch with , according to Macworld UK. According to the report, talks, which took place over this past weekend, "broke down" after Apple presented terms that were unacceptable to Europe's independent labels. "If this report proves true this will mean Apple will launch its store – at present anticipated to open for business tomorrow in the UK, France and Germany – without key musicians that define the UK market. Independent labels account for 25 per cent of music retail sales in the UK, and 22 per cent across Europe."


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  1. Pauldunlop

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    06/14, 01:38pm | report spam | Reply |

    Weird

    I find it weird that Apple seems to be having so much trouble over here in Europe compared with the US. I don't know huge amounts about the inner workings of the music industry, but surely this would seem to indicate more that Apple is pitching for a new deal to make more money/more rights,/something like that, rather than the situation, commercially, being so radically different over here

    I suppose the one thing that could make a big difference is tax, which, as I understand it doesn't exist for the iTMS US. US Online Music Sales are exempt from tax, whereas Europe is different. We shall see tomorrow I guess

  1. Halfloaf

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    06/14, 01:50pm | report spam | Reply |

    Wouldn't hold my hopes u

    I wouldn't hold my hopes up for the Europe music store, simply based on the outrages pricing structure Apple adopts with it's international customers. Where prices of Apple products are usually 25% higher (and more) than their US counterparts.

    I will not pay anything more than 69 pence for a track...Simple as that.

    -HL

  1. outZider

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    06/14, 01:52pm | report spam | Reply |

    exempt from tax?

    Nah, sales taxing still applies for the US iTMS. My tracks are $1.07 when it's all said and done, my location set to Washington State. Tempting to get an account in Oregon to avoid taxing. ;)

  1. Pauldunlop

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    06/14, 02:51pm | report spam | Reply |

    Ahhh

    Ahhh, OK. Fair enough. I guess the difference must be that in Europe, or the UK at least, you HAVE to show the price including VAT at each stage along the way, whereas in the US you don't, That always catches me out when I visit!

  1. testudo

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    06/14, 03:00pm | report spam | Reply |

    Re: exempt

    Odd, My downloads are not taxed, although my state has sales tax AND an Apple store. Not sure why some localities get taxed and others don't.

  1. LoungeFly

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    06/14, 03:24pm | report spam | Reply |

    state sales taxes

    Some states have placed a moratorium on collecting sales tax on internet purchases. Thus, a state could have a sales tax but not collect it for online purchases. Luckily, in New Hampshire there are no sales taxes of any kind on music (store bought or internet bought).

  1. buck5ter

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    06/14, 03:33pm | report spam | Reply |

    69 pence dumbass

    i really hope you're being ironic.

    apple's products in europe are no more expensive than any other company's.

    it's just economics, nothing to do with apple.

    btw, 69 pence = $1.248, ie. 25 percent more than than the US (use calculator currency converter).

    what is your arguement?

  1. Drash

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    06/14, 03:54pm | report spam | Reply |

    Why iTMS instead of CD?

    buy a CD and you've got a backup and can rip new copies when things go bad. They will. I'm on my fifth HD in my iMac - they don't make 'em like they used to. Call me old fashioned but I can't really get excited about the idea of owning a magnetic field on something destined to wear out in months. CDs are cheap, last 10 ish years and work in my car, and I quite like jostling with the proles in HMV to handle the goods before I buy.

    Yours
    The luddite

  1. Pauldunlop

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    06/14, 04:10pm | report spam | Reply |

    For me....

    For me, its just an issue of convenience. Not only can I hear a preview of every song I am potentially about to buy, but I can also pick and choose the ones I want from an album, potentially saving lots of money if there are only a few songs I like on the album. And of course, there's the whole "being about to do it from your chair, at 2am in the morning" thing too. Which rocks, if you ask me!

  1. Elektrix

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    06/14, 04:52pm | report spam | Reply |

    ReWhy iTMS instead of CD?

    In general, I buy a track on iTunes when all I want is one or two songs from an artist. I much prefer to just buy one or two songs than spend $10-20 on an entire album if I don't want it.

    If I do really want the whole album though, I generally will still buy the CD.

    I don't think it's that complicated really. I've bought about 50 tracks on iTMS..... so, about $50. But if I had had to buy all the full albums to get those tracks instead, it would have cost much more (and realistically I just wouldn't have gotten them at all).

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