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Eminem copyright lawsuit against Apple moves forward

updated 02:25 am EDT, Tue May 18, 2004

Eminem lawsuit continues

A federal judge ruled that over use of his "Lose Yourself" song in an Apple iTunes tv ad can go forward, after a preliminary hearing was held on Monday, according to the Detroit Free Press: "On Monday, U.S. District Judge U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor ruled that Eminem's publishing company's suit can proceed against several companies, including MTV parent company Viacom and advertising agency TBWA/Chiat/Day. Taylor threw out two state law-based claims of unfair competition and unjust enrichment. The television ad appeared many times during three months beginning in July 2003 and on Apple's Web site, despite the fact that the computer company had unsuccessfully sought Eminem's permission for the campaign."

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Sydney Tsai
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05/18, 03:42am | report spam | close Reply |
This punk...

I don't think this guy worth for making money this way....

pascalpp
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05/18, 04:29am | report spam | close Reply |
meanwhile...

meanwhile Eminem's latest video prominently features an iPod Mini...

koolkid1976
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05/18, 07:54am | report spam | close Reply |
re: meanwhile...

"meanwhile Eminem's latest video prominently features an iPod Mini..."

Yea, I was about to say that. Apple should sue him.

winstonford
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05/18, 08:21am | report spam | close Reply |
labels v. artists

if apple strokes the labels and dicks the artist, let justice be served.

testudo
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05/18, 09:11am | report spam | close Reply |
Huh?

if apple strokes the labels and dicks the artist, let justice be served.

What the h*** is this supposed to mean?

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True...

I saw this while switching channels.... It's not like the lawsuit was a last minute thing... why then, have it appear in the latest video? In any case, I bet Steve Jobs is really proud of how he stooped down and promoted this fool's songs.

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05/18, 09:43am | report spam | close Reply |
lol

Apple HAS to stroke the labels, moron. The labels control f**king everything. 90% of the cash you pay for a CD goes to the Big Five. You'd be better off pirating your music and sending the artist a check directly.

That being said, apple has done more to promote arists and push out the music then nearly any other company out there. They screwed up in this one case, and suddenly people think they're out to s**** artists. Give me a break.

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05/18, 10:28am | report spam | close Reply |
Haha...

Sort of ironic...Apple is essentially asking people to stop illegal music downloads...in the meantime, they didn't obtain permission for a song they used in their advertising campaign. Nice job, Apple!

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05/18, 10:34am | report spam | close Reply |
RE: lol

Yeah, Eminem must really be hurting for cash . . .

How could a company like Apple not get permission before making a commercial? This must be a huge publicity stunt - it works out well for Apple and Eminem.

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05/18, 10:56am | report spam | close Reply |
weee!

I don't think eminem is trying to s**** apple for cash just to be greedy he just doesn't want anything to do with advertising.
I know many people who hate artists who put their music on ads, and I don't blame them. Eminem is just pissed off with them.
Personally if I was famous apple would be the only company I'd let use my song, just because Im a mac fan

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I don't think eminem is trying to s**** apple for cash just to be greedy he just doesn't want anything to do with advertising.

Please. He advertises himself and his music. So, basically, he doesn't want to demean himself to advertise for something else (well, until he's no longer the hot little white rapper, then you'll see his songs wherever he can place them).

I know many people who hate artists who put their music on ads, and I don't blame them.

Why? Because they 'sold out'? Or because, once they put them in advertising, other people might like the band, and then they may become 'popular', and all your 'hip' friends will have to find another band to like, because they only like groups that are little known.

Trust me, these so-called 'pure' artists will sell out when it suits them (h***, look at all the so-called 'purist' actors who refuse to do commercials in the US, but have no problem shilling in Japan).

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Mistakes happen

I suspect that someone made a judgment call about using the song without permission. (Remember, you do not need permission to do a cover, but you do owe royalties. Similarly, you do not need permission for most fair use purposes, but the list is short.)

As I understand the facts, they were wrong. The courts will hear it, and if, indeed, the usage was out of the bounds of fair use, Apple will pay. If it turns out that Apple thought they had permission because, say, Chiat/Day told them so, then it is C/D that is going to be on the hook. In neither case does it mean that Apple is out to "d*** the artist"

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Deal
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05/18, 01:15pm | report spam | close Reply |
Give me a break

Lets think about this for a minute. Some little kid sings the lyrics to this song, by his own accord and Apple records it. Apple decides to use this kid for their commercial (remember, not one real note of the song played). Now eminem wants to sue for millions. I think this eminem is a little nutty.

Give me a break.

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bad for society

his just goes to show that eminem is bad for the world, at least for Apple. Look at how Apple got in trouble with parents about that kid singing that song. Now, they're getting sued.

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Re: Wee

Please. He advertises himself and his music. So, basically, he doesn't want to demean himself to advertise for something else (well, until he's no longer the hot little white rapper, then you'll see his songs wherever he can place them).

It's his job to advertise himself. It is NOT his job to advertise for other people.

Why? Because they 'sold out'? Or because, once they put them in advertising, other people might like the band, and then they may become 'popular', and all your 'hip' friends will have to find another band to like, because they only like groups that are little known.

(I cant speak for the original poster, but here's my 2 cents) Artists create art. it's what they do. When that art is used to sell chicken and toilet paper.. I lose some respect for that artist because they are not doing it for the love of art.. but rather for the love of money!

Trust me, these so-called 'pure' artists will sell out when it suits them (h***, look at all the so-called 'purist' actors who refuse to do commercials in the US, but have no problem shilling in Japan).

Well, find me a product that Eminem has endorsed here or in Japan. Or is this some lame generalization for all artists? So what if he does eventuallt sell out? shouldnt that be his choice or should that be left up to other big companies?

way to go.. that has to be the lamest post ive read all day! thanks testudo!

Bottom line here folks (and I thought this was blatently obvious).. Apple did not obtain permission to use copyrighted material. Case closed.

and for the record, do you honestly think Eminem is sueing Apple? or could it POSSIBLY be his record company... Hmmm.....

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why is this difficult?

Maybe you don't like eminem, his music, or his mother's pet snake. Does this mean Apple gets to decide whether his stock in trade can be used to advertise their product? Of course not.

Eminem claims he never has endorsed anything. Great, or not great. Regardless, he (apparently) did not agree to endorce an apple product. It's irrelevant whether he made 8 dozen other endorsement deals or none. If apple didn't have permission, and it is outside of fair use, eminem would be a moron not to sue... If only to avoid dealing with an issue like this again.

If it was some struggling genius universally renowned artist, or for that matter, a local doctor's office or grocery store, it would be no different. This is his livelihood. Sheesh.

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Eminem copyright lawsuit against Apple moves forward

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Mistakes happen

Give me a break

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